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After Chinese spyware banned, users of banned Chinese spyware migrate to not-yet banned Chinese spyware.

[–] DocumentingReality@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

I read online somewhere, that you will still be able to have Tiktok. It will only be removed from the App stores. Then gradually faze out the site itself later. So, you have some time to get on the site. It won't be completely offline on January 19.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not really one for Tik Tok, but I went on REDNote to see what it was about and it was incredibly wholesome seeing American and Chinese people getting to interact as normal human beings and understand each other without it being filtered through our governments. Even if they don't shut down Tik Tok, they're gonna have to shut that shit down. Can't have future soldiers seeing their "enemies" as humans.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I wonder if they're actually chinese troll farms

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 17 minutes ago

Who like all of them? Why?

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 56 minutes ago

For those unfamiliar:

The 50 Cent Party, also known as the 50 Cent Army or wumao, are Internet commentators who are paid by the authorities of the People's Republic of China to spread the propaganda of the governing Chinese Communist Party (CCP). The program was created during the early phases of the Internet's rollout to the wider public in China.

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

In a way I would feel more comfortable with china having my shit posting data than an American company. At least if china has it, there is slightly less of a chance of them selling the data to a data set deanonymizing company who in turn sells my data linked to me to like an insurance company who jacks my rates because I said their CEO should get Luigi'd. What is china gonna do to me if I never go to China and exist largely outside of their sphere of influence?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, China doesn’t have jurisdiction over me. I don’t have to worry about the CCP showing up at my door to harass me for what I post. But it’s a very real threat from the US feds.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean you do, that's what the Chinese police operating in the United States thing is about.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No, it’s sinophobic propaganda.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't about you. China doesn't care about you. If they have a computer tracking cell network info of groups of soldiers, they can glean actionable information about US military posture. They can do large-scale data analysis on the information they have and get a startling amount of information. They can also use it as a vector for injecting their favorite form of aggression against the US, soft power. They can't defeat the US in a fight, but economic and cultural warfare is a vulnerability in the US where the battleground is far more level. The incoming administration has indicated it plans to further increase the US's military strength, which is functionally untouchable as it stands and is more than ready for the fight nobody plans to bring against it, while weakening the actual fight we are seeing. The US is objectively safer, however little, against the machinations of the CCP with tiktok gone, but it is a band-aid on a firehose. Also, the CCP is clearly ready for that move given the move to Redbook, likely stoked by CCP operators under the guise of "haha let's go to another Chinese app, that'll show 'em!" because Americans are very easy to predict and manipulate...they are born and raised to be manipulated. It's rough, but quite interesting to see play out.

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But that's my point. china doesn't care about me. American data gobblers care very much about me because I exist as a consumer in their sphere of influence and am far more likely to be exploited by said data.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

China would have more of an investment in the information on people they DO care to get than the US would have on any information scraps it could collect from tiktok that it doesn't already have from hundreds of other sources.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

Do they actually? I mean why can't I sell my days. If I quit the big tech companies and paid for the equivalent services, could I sell that data at a auction? Not having a go at you, just wondering how much our individual data is actually worth.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Reject modernity, everyone go back to ~~forum boards~~ usenet lol

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