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[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

“I’ve talked to so many governors and congresspeople and senators and never once did they say Canada is the problem,” Ford told CNN. He emphasized that a bilateral deal between Canada and the U.S. would be a better solution than imposing tariffs on Canadian goods.

I'm no fan of Doug Ford, but he's right here. I guess Trump's plan is to drive Canada into the ground economically through tariffs then invade or otherwise annex Canada when it's too poor and desperate to resist. But why? It would be more profitable to both the USA and Canada simply not to do any of this. There are only two explanations I can think of:

  1. Belligerence is the only thing Trump understands, even when it works to his own disadvantage, because actual diplomacy is too complicated for him and soft power contains the word "soft", and/or
  2. Trump isn't working for the interests of the USA, but rather for those who want to see NATO and other Western alliances destroyed.
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I'm not super well-versed in Canadian politics, but isn't Doug Ford basically a mini-Trump?

new england is right there canada like we'd volunteer happily.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Watch out about offering to buy something. Sometimes they force you to go through with it.

Ask Elon.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

That worked out for him.

He ended up owning the whole fucking country.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Or they add a lot more to the deal. New Orleans wasn't worth the rest of it.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Lamesauce, the correct response to anything Trump says is ....................................

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 255 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Following Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s resignation announcement on Monday, Trump claimed credit for the decision, saying that people in Canada “love” the idea of becoming a U.S. state. This prompted Ford to make his own comments about acquiring U.S. territories.

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Canadian MP Charlie Angus rejected the idea outright, pointing to differences in the nations’ laws. Angus stated on X that Canada has rules preventing “sexual abusers” from becoming leaders, a clear reference to allegations against Trump.

I would love to have seen Trump's face when he heard that rejection.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aligations? Isn't he convicted?

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. He was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil trial. Convictions are criminal and the standard of evidence is higher.

Basically the courts have decided that it's slightly more likely than not that he sexually abused Carroll, which is all that's needed to win a civil case. Criminal cases are on a "beyond a reasonable doubt" threshold which is much harder to meet.

Frankly, he probably wouldn't be criminally convicted because of the higher standard - the defense in a criminal trial doesn't have to prove the accused didn't do it, they don't even have to prove it's more likely than not they didn't do it, they only need to prove there's a reasonable doubt that they might not have done it. And I think there's just enough wiggle room around it he could possibly skate by.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 22 hours ago

On one hand, that's how a criminal standard of justice should work, to prevent wrongfully convicting the innocent.

On the other hand, that would require the system to be functional and fair in the first place, rather than being slanted towards who can afford the better lawyers, but that's a whole can of worms I don't think I need to crack open here - we all agree on that anyway.

[–] frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If PM is prime minister, is MP minister prime?

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can we change it to Minister Prime? It seems like a cooler title

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[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Minister Prime sounds like a transformers name.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

North Carolina plox

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 116 points 2 days ago (26 children)

Instead, how about California, Oregon and Washington joining Canada?

[–] spiff@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seattlite reporting in. Cascadia Now! I support this and would love to be a part of Canada! Some of us in the PNW have been talking about this for a while now... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement and https://cascadiaunderground.org/

[–] skysurfer@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If this means high-speed rail from Vancouver to LA, sign us up!

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 66 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I don't mean to be depressing but envying Canada for its spectacular rail service would be inadvisable.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Canadian Californians? That would be totally cool, dude, eh!

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I live in Massachusetts and would totally support seceding and going to Canada.

Can RI come along too? You won't have to worry about their terrible driving, they'd never drive out of the region.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah but under Doug Ford? Dudes a moron who's made it his personal mission to spend money to remove bike lanes.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i mean toronto/ontario is largely anti ford.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

They just keep voting for him, or not voting against him. Get it together Ontario!

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We need Vermont to join. It makes sense. Maple syrup monopoly to boot.

massachusetts has all the english names anyway it'd be easy to slap the queen on our money

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stan Marsh? I thought you were in Colorado.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As a Minnesotan I'm okay with this.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think Canadians would have a problem with taking on Minnesota.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If y'all do a referendum, maybe they dont even have to buy it?

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[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please sell Minnesota/Minneapolis to Canada. Please. I would much rather be Canadian.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (8 children)

You're honorary Canadians, eh buddy.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes, please buy Texas and Florida

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

As someone who lives in Texas, yes please, I can’t afford healthcare

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean would you rather join Canada or stay in the United States. Because if Texas gets to join Canada, I'm moving to Texas.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How much control does Canada have over the provinces? Cause I'm not interested in slightly-Canadian Texas, they gotta go further than that.

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Not sure but I just want healthcare

[–] parricc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

As a Texan, I'd fully support our state becoming part of a newly created Southwest Territories that is governed by Canada.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (5 children)

How about if we buy Alaska and throw in Minnesota and Minneapolis at the same time?

Joke’s on them—Minneapolis is in Minnesota, so they’d only be getting two regions instead of three. Sell them quick before they catch on!

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 days ago

Convicted felons aren't allowed to enter the country.

Trump couldn't try before he buys.

[–] pirating@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Florida! Let's take this chance to dump Florida off onto somebody else!

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Seems fair, we have a chunk of Canda's northwest, they can have a chunk of our southeast.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

So we're just actually gonna do the Michael Moore United States of Canada vs Jesusland thing?

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