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The reverse of that post I've made a week ago...

Rules: pick one movie or series and explain why you actually enjoyed it despite the criticism.

For me: The JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, by far the best ST stuff ever made, I couldn't take seriously the original universe with the dated effects and stiff acting, same goes for NG... These movies did ST actually great looking and much more believable, not just the effects.

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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Zardoz. Say what you will about Sean Connery running around in a bright red romper, it was original.

[–] D1G17AL@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Super Mario Bros. with Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. I don't care how bad it is. It's in the campy so-bad it's good pool of movies and nothing anyone says can change my mind. The fact that they were drunk off their asses just makes it even funnier in my opinion.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I thought Waterworld was fine.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Not sure if it was HATED, but Hook if we're going by reviews. I can't imagine any kid seeing that movie and not loving it though.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago

Hook got critically panned??? Have critics ever known what they're talking about???

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Wild Wild West has a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes but I genuinely enjoy that film. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen also at 16% and also a movie I enjoyed

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Fun fact. Will Smith passed up playing Neo in the Matrix for WWW. I think we got the better deal but it's fun to picture it.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

No way ! WWW is a treasured childhood memory of mine, this rotten tomato guy can suck ass

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

I'm not even going to call it a guilty pleasure, but Josie and the Pussycats was a movie that I genuinely adored long before people started to appreciate it for the satire that it is.

As a CIS male I got endlessly mocked, but I stuck to my guns.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Waterworld and Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.

Waterworld is ocean Fallout and RHPoT is fucking meme central. Plus RH is my childhood nostalgia movie, I've probably watched it over a couple hundred times just on VHS.

[–] coriza@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Waterworld is Mad Max on a boat

The pitch was probably something like "What if Mad Max but instead of sand we have water?" And the producer guy would be something like "Will the people still be dirty even with all that water?" And the screen writer guy: "Wouldn't be an post apocalyptic world if the people is not dirty"

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I grew up with Men in Tights. My room mate grew up with Spaceballs. It was really fun to swap movies and show each other another Mel Brooks movie.

(If you dont treat those titles and movies, that sentence has a very different meaning)

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[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Johnny Mnemonic. Keanu cannot act for shit in it, the story isn't exactly gripping, hell the action in it is somewhere in the shitter. Oh, and Henry Rollins is a nerdy doctor. All if it adds up to a campy trip of slop that triggers my guilty pleasure.

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[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (14 children)

For me, it's the movie Waterworld. I cannot get enough of that movie. So many people hated it. 🤣

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 34 points 4 days ago

Haters: it's just Mad Max on water

Me: that's awesome

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Postman. Compared to other post apocalyptic cheese fests it feels like a more nuanced display of societal breakdown and the re-emergence of the barter economy.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Star Wars Ep 1 gets more hate than it deserves. It's not a masterpiece by any means, but it's enjoyable.

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[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Matrix 2 & 3. I don't see, or watch, them as separate movies. Rather, together with Matrix 1, they form one big masterpiece for me. But I can see that it doesn't really fit the 100 minutes format audiences came to expect, and breaking it in three parts did not do it any good. Plus, I guess I'm just a fan of long movies as I've also sat through the original, restored "Until the End of the World," which runs for about 5 hours.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 66 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (22 children)

For me: The JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, by far the best ST stuff ever made, I couldn't take seriously the original universe with the dated effects and stiff acting, same goes for NG... These movies did ST actually great looking and much more believable, not just the effects.

Just kidding... but not really.

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[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 66 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Me and about a dozen other people thought John Carter was great. To me, it was just a fun sci-fi/fantasy movie. Never undestood the hate.

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 57 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The original super Mario bros movie from the 90s. If I come across it I always get the urge to watch it. Its so weird and interesting, love it. Noone in my family will watch it though they hate it :(

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[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a non-fan, I thought the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies were well received. All the casual trek fans around me seemed to like them, at least

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[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (8 children)

SOLO - I know everyone hated on this film, but we get a space western mixed with a heist movie. Woody Harrelson and Donald Glover are icing on the cake. Plus we get a robot uprising. 5 bags of popcorn and throw in a couple of those Darth Vader cups.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Batman v Superman and Justice League (I didn't watch original versions though).

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[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (15 children)

Lots of people love to hate Cloud Atlas. I see it as flawed work of art with a good message and an amazing cast, produced under such nearly impossible circumstances that we are more than lucky it ever saw the light of day.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Man, I love that movie totally unironically. Cannibal Hugh Grant, dude.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Tank Girl, it got shit reviews when it came out, but has grown a cult following since then, https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tank_girl

I am also partial to Dude Where’s My Car

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[–] BarbudoGrande@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

John Carter

[–] kubok@fedia.io 21 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The mid-2000s A-Team movie comes to mind. It was terrible. The casting was off and there was no real plot to speak of. However, it was so much over the top that it turned pretty funny actually. I probably won't be watching it a second time though.

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[–] MissingInteger@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I really like Alien: Covenant. Micheal Fassbender is fantastic in that movie.
Awesome cinematography, awesome vibe, awesome creatures and Aliens, and a fantastic ending.\

It’s my second favorite Alien movie.
Okay, thanks to that statement the flamethrowers are gonna come out; let me explain:

  1. Alien is a nigh untouchable masterpiece.
  2. Alien: Covenant
  3. Aliens is a good movie. I don’t quiet like it as much as an Alien-Movie and also am generally not that big of a fan as quite a lot of people seem to be.
  4. Alien Romulus. Okay, nice movie I guess. The are some plot holes like: How do they know Ridley threw the Xenomorph out of the airlock? She is still in Cryosleep. But generally quite enjoyable. Jumping Facehuggers are a nice touch.
  5. Prometheus. I also don’t dislike this one. Even though they got lost in the weeds on this one a bit.
  6. ……
  7. ……
  8. ……
  9. Alien 3: Bad.
  10. Alien Resurrection: Utter Garbag.
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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lucy.

It’s a really fun action/sci-fi flick. I don’t know why people dismiss it for being scientifically inaccurate. Who went into it thinking it was realistic? LoL.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

A million ways to die in the west is a solid dumb comedy. The movie has dogshit reviews on every review site but I enjoyed it.

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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Green Lantern. I went in expecting cartoony quips and got what I expected. Everyone calls it a stupid movie like they went in expecting Shakespeare and found the Muppets. I went in expecting a live action comic book, and yeah that's pretty much what I got. Fun show, watched it a few times now.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Wild wild west. I wish to be entertained.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

Norm MacDonald's Dirty Work is actually pretty funny.

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I'm taking a big risk after experiencing your last post, but... I actually really loved Prometheus. Alien is in my top 5 movies list, but I still enjoyed it.

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If you ignore the leads Valerian was an incredible set.

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[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I love The Polar Express.

The most widely hated thing about it is the mocap. Not much to say here, I'm just straight-up not bothered by it. I think it looks fine. It's not incredibly expressive like a stylized animated film could be, but it doesn't look actively bad to me in any way.

The way the titular express inexplicably gains and loses rolling stock scene by scene and behaves in absurd ways like bending around the mountain are a common punchline. "BuT iT's A mAgIc TrAiN!!!" doesn't really solve it for me either. But on a casual viewing it's mostly inoffensive. A silly curiosity.

Some say the plot of the film spends too much time aimlessly noodling around and throwing in needless filler scenes. Meh. If you ask me that's where all the meat of the film is. The actual plot of the film has nothing interesting to say. "Kid doesn't believe in Santa. Magic Christmas hijinks ensue. Kid believes in Santa now. The end." Riveting. Nah, the so-called "filler" is absolutely the meal here.

The fact that the film literally has five named characters, and the main character isn't one of them is hilarious. To even get to that number you have to count both the Scrooge puppet and the kid who the elves were monitoring in a single scene as characters, and after that, one of the remaining three is Santa Claus. Just more weight to my point that the story doesn't matter, lmao.

Say what you will about the animation, but the cinematography is incredible. So many dynamic long-track camera shots from interesting angles. Especially whenever the steam locomotive is on screen. God, steam locomotives are so fucking cool. I don't even care that it's full of inaccuracies if you actually look up close. They put a lot of effort into it and that effort shows. It's quite the treat.

The set design of the North Pole is fantastic. It's admittedly kinda fucked that it's modeled after a real world Pullman company town, but I guess it's appropriate as a joke about the whole Santa's workshop thing while also incorporating a neat little nod to real life railroad lore. Beyond that, it's blindingly radiant of all that Victorian-era charm that most of the modern secular Christmas tradition is born from. The serene night snow amidst the rustic red brickwork illuminated by glowing amber gaslamps... augh, it's so aggressively cozy!

All the pneumatic and other steampunk-adjacent elf tech is a treat as well. The film is certainly no slouch in breathing its own unique spin of whimsy into Santa's toy factory. It's not the most whimsical out there, but it's definitely putting in work.

Alan Silvestri's score is phenomenal. It's all delightfully extra. Every single song in the film that's an original composition is a banger and every song that isn't an original composition for the film is part of that time-tested canon of hits from the 50s and 60s. I think a lot of people are fed up sick of the latter but, I dunno, I grew up listening to them on my Now That's What I Call Christmas CD, and to me their sound is synonymous with that warm, nostalgic holiday cheer I get from the season. Even if I don't get around to actually watching the movie, you know damn well I'm putting The Polar Express's soundtrack in my December shuffle.

Genuine S tier Christmas film. Well worth every single fault.

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