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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Dude I just bought 4 refurbished Linksys MX4200 (tri-band) access points for $80 (total), put on OpenWRT, and built a mesh system. I'm incredibly happy with the result, especially for the price. And, I've got wireless bridges all through the house so I can keep some things off the forwarding channels and only in the back haul.

It's not wired, but it's close enough and doesn't require me drilling through all my walls running cable or carving out a space in the house for all of it to coalesce.

Granted, I'm in an area with not a lot of wireless interference...I work in enterprise networking and I've had a lot of issues with remote workers on wireless networks that weren't capable of handling the volume of data that the users were uploading. Sometimes just because there's too much interference...but a lot of the time it's because of misconfiguration (either out of ignorance or because the good features, like multicast-to-unicast, are missing), or printer drivers that spam the wireless with multicast whenever the printer is offline (which I've seen a surprising amount of times).

If you're on wireless...multicast is bad, mmmkay? Only "one" device can talk at a time on wireless (barring MIMO shenanigans), and when it's multicast traffic...it has to get sent at the lowest compatible rates. A lot of routers set this to 6Mbps or even 1Mbps by default. So your nice fancy "1200Mbps" wireless has to slow down a crawl every time your Roku wants to tell Alexa that it's there. Which is surprisingly often. Scale up for all the internet-of-crap stuff people have and it's a miracle their wireless works at all.

Oh and I've found people with extenders they don't know about. Ring Chime? Apparently it functions as an 802.11n (only) extender. Huge bottleneck right there. And then it can only be as good as the signal it gets from the next access point.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I’m a nice fellow who provides free internet to all of my neighbors.

It’s a pain sometimes.

I worry about the teenager upstairs, but all the others are old ladies and it doesn’t bother me a bit…until I want to do something serious.

I’m about to (tax time) invest in a router that allows me to control their bandwidth. It’s free, so if 20mbps don’t work for them they can pay for it.

I will open up the kid’s PS5 so he can game. His laptop is getting 10mbps though.

Old ladies rocking 4k to sleep is too much.

They don’t pay for internet so they get the good good on their services. I’m too sorry and antisocial to go deal with it.

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[–] icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Who buys a $300 home wifi box? They're $50-100

[–] Racle@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Depends on usage. If you don't need super fast speeds or low latency, go for cheaper model.

If you need low latency and high speeds (ex. Wireless VR with PC), you need to pay more to get good and stable connection (+ multiple routers as mesh if needed). And more expensive devices have different CPU/RAM which will help you if you have large network + extra security features on.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wireless data links should be the exclusive domain of temporary, nomadic and/or sacrificial applications.

If the channel is permanent, static, or critical; as much of the path as practicable should be provisioned with constrained energy transmission.

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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I spend a lot more money on good Ethernet switches. But at least that works and is easier to manage than Wifi.

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[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I set up a mesh router pair a while back - super easy setup, and the speed is good enough to have multiple TVs streaming at once, and without needing to run cables between rooms... Worth it.

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

That one in the picture is $599 isn't it?

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I'm seriously thinking of getting a usbC-ethernet dongle for my mobile, for when I'm at my desk.

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[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unless you need 6ft of cable or you just run wires on the floor it's more like $200 of plenium rated cable, and keystone jacks and the labor involved with the run.

My house with a half finished basement (easy access) took probably 16-20 hours running to 5 rooms.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah when i did my house i was quoted $100-200 a drop and that was years ago. I bought materials for 20 drops for about 1k (cables, keystones, plates, cable tester, ethernet cutter, puncher, drywall knife, flex drill bit, wall fishing tape, network switch, and a bunch of other stuff im probably forgetting). It took me 1 hour per drop on average. Some were easy, some were a pain in the ass. Now you can save on materials slightly by doing 1 drop per room whereas i did individual drops for each jack (because i wanted full bandwidth on each line), but either way it is going to end up more costly than an access point or mesh system unless you're just running one line within the same room.

Definitely worth it if you care about the speed or reliability of your connection but i think for most people these days it's probably overkill.

If you do go wiring everything then now you're mostly already set up to do some Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) devices for cameras, access points etc. And next thing you know you're an amateur home networker!

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Honestly, my place isn't that big, but I can cover the whole place with a single wireless access point, and get fast, reliable, stable connection everywhere.

In the room with the AP (my home office and gaming PC) I have zero jitter, zero packet loss, and 2ms ping.

Wire hasn't been needed for a good connection for a long time

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

I got a used 10Gbe switch and a thunderbolt 10Gbe adapter for my computer and now I can transfer my videos and photos from my NAS like it's my internal hard drives.

It can also do 2.5Gbe which pretty much future proofs me.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago

6.99 is just one cost though. If you're needing ethernet actually done in walls then you're going to be paying a lot more than an access point.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 9 points 4 days ago

But that cable can't summon Kel'Tuzad unlike the router.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 days ago

I have about 6 or 8 ethernet cables in use plus more in my spare cables box, and I don't remember ever paying for one. Where do they come from? I never seem to run out.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Phased arrays are not a joke. You can get ridiculous dynamic range with those

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