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This Time We Have to Hold the Democratic Party Elite Responsible for This Catastrophe
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Doesn't matter, there won't be a next time.
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2024
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Why can't we just blame the idiots who didn't vote for her? Can't it be their fault and not some mystery boogeyman behind the curtain that democratic voters are supposed to feel responsible for?
You people are not owed votes. People vote for things, Harris offered nothing of value. People do not usually vote against things.
Tens of millions of poor Americans are worse off now than they were under Trump during the height of the pandemic. What was the liberal messaging from the Harris campaign?
No you're not, get over it, vote for more of the same economics that have destroyed your last shred of hope for a brighter future.
That doesn't resonate with people. Clinton ran a campaign on "I'm not him," without acknowledging anything americans were suffering through under Obama. Loss
Biden didn't run a campaign, but acknowledged people suffering under Trump and under Obama. Win
Harris ran a campaign on "I'm exactly the last guy and I'm not Trump" without acknowledging the people suffering under Biden's policy, loss
People don't vote against, they vote for, and if you give them no hope things will get better, why would they vote for you?
So Trump’s going to skyrocket inflation and debt again? Like he did last time and that this administration is finally in the late stages of cleaning up?
This happens basically any time a Republican president is elected. They shit all over the economy, tank it and finally when Democrats clean everything up these morons cry “I was better off under the guy that fucked up everything.”
I keep seeing everywhere that voters voted on the economy, yet no one seems to be pointing out the exhausting, blatantly obvious truth. It’s been happening for what, 20+ years now?
Republicans make a mess, Democrats are always forced to clean it up. So pardon me if I think the voters are idiots.
So Trump’s going to skyrocket inflation and debt again? Like he did last time and that this administration is finally in the late stages of cleaning up?
Maybe, probably. This admin hasn't cleaned up inflation though. They failed to address the primary cause, or alleviate any of the symptoms. Nearly everyone is worse off now than they were 4 years ago, during a pandemic. That takes a special kind of failure.
You can claim whatever, but that's how voters see it. If you want to win votes you need to meet voters where they are, not where you pretend they are.
keep seeing everywhere that voters voted on the economy, yet no one seems to be pointing out the exhausting, blatantly obvious truth. It’s been happening for what, 20+ years now?
Because no one has fixed the economy after Republicans, like you're suggesting.
They have made it worse.
Obama inherited the result of Clinton's poor financial decisions on the housing market passed to resolve the issues from Reaganomics. What did he do? He gave hope, sure that's more than Clinton or Harris were capable of, but he didn't fix it. Wages continued to go down compared to productivity and inflation. Shit just kept getting harder. Credit card debt started to balloon again. The average American was suffering more at the end of Obama's term than any of the Dems acknowledged... And Clinton lost because of that.
The voters care about a few things, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. Neither Dems or Republicans guarantee or improve access to any of those. Biden busted a union strike for fucks sake.
Very few voters who were harmed by trump were helped by Biden. So why vote for Biden with a vagina or Trump.
Obama inherited the result of Clinton's poor financial decisions on the housing market passed to resolve the issues from Reaganomics.
Obama inherited a landscape where 8 years of Bush had deregulated the banks to the point where they were giving mortgage loans underwater from the start to anyone with a pulse which lead to the 2008 collapse.
Hold them responsible by refusing to vote for neoliberals ever again.
BuT hOw wIlL wE kIcK MagA oUt
It won't be by voting, that's for sure.
I get the feeling she would have won against any other candidate.. it is just the people with weird admiration for Trump
The racist wine aunt that promised to continue economic policies that hurt the bottom 70% of the US wouldn't have won.
Yup.