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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Apparently Hitler had a dog. So maybe reexamine your beliefs if you think dogs are good judges of character lol.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

well, one thing i'll say in his favour: he did kill hitler.

(credit: jimmy carr)

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago

But he killed the guy who killed Hitler.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago

Is that really a Jimmy Carr joke? Pretty sure that's just something every school kid has heard

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 9 hours ago

Then you're part of the 23%. This poll is bullshit

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

That reminds me to rewatch Danger 5.

"Your mission... yada yada, and as always; Kill Hitler!"

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

23 percent of respondents said Hitler was a "good person or an equally good and bad person" or "a bad person who did some good things," data from YouGov showed.

What a bullshit poll. So basically anyone who recognizes he cared for a dog is seen as liking Hitler.

Anyone who said otherwise doesn't understand spectrums and is generally using black and white thinking, a sign of mental illness

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's a pretty wild interpretation of the question. It seems pretty clear the question is asking about opinion of his public acts.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because being nice to a dog is not comparable with murdering 17 million people.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know the definition of "all"?

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/50864-two-thirds-of-americans-say-hitler-was-completely-bad

There's no mention of "all bad" in the actual poll or YouGov analysis. That's just something that website added to drive traffic.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

He wasn't. He killed Hitler after all

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He wasn't "all bad", he apparently was very good with animals, like his dog Blondie. He was a vegetarian. And that's probably everything which wasn't bad. For the rest it's all completely fucked up bad. No doubt about it.

Oh and I just remembered he was very good at giving directions. "were do I need to go?" "Take the third reich"

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think he was vegetarian for animals. He did it for his health. Something Stallen should have done.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I thought I heard it was because of his love for animals. I googled and found This wiki page about it. TL:DR is it's not completely clear whether it's because of health reasons or because he's against animal abuse.

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

More than one in five apparently.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What was the voter turn out percent? 10%? 5%?

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Voter turnout hit an estimated 71% for the November 5, 2024 General Election.

So 3 in 10 people are alright with this, and a few more are psyched about it

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I mean I looked up the official results of the election on google and if that's not good enough for you then too bad.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

I’m pretty sure we know now that that number is a lot more than we originally thought.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Hitler had one good idea. Right at the end when he decided to shoot himself.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 29 points 14 hours ago

Reminds me of this great street art I saw posted at some point. Can't find the source though.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago

Sure, Hitler passed some of the first anti-smoking laws.

That doesn’t excuse all the other awful awful things he did.

Also his anti smoking laws failed as the war went on longer and longer.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

Kind of a loaded question to include the word "all" but I understand the lack of faith or respect for the USA right about now.

[–] tja@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

And I'm guessing none of those Americans have had relatives who were actually living during WWII.

[–] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 50 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That's not fair phrasing and will lead to high numbers.

Hitler wasn't "all" bad technically, he was just so bad that the good shouldn't matter at all. Pushing forward technology (VW Beetle, Autobahn) should is no way be justified by genocide (obviously).

A better question would have been something like "do you like Hitler overall?"

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

The full poll data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf

Do you think of Adolf Hitler as. . . ?

  • A completely good person: 1%
  • A good person who did some bad things: 4%
  • An equally good and bad person: 7%
  • A bad person who did some good things: 12%
  • A completely bad person : 65%
  • Not sure : 12%

So 12% felt he was at least as good as he was bad, 12% fell into the 'well, even a horrible person can do something right, and 12% were somehow not sure...

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 9 hours ago

So basically the number is 5%, not 23%

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[–] wildflower@lemmy.world 235 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Judging by the latest election, the number seams a lot higher, more like three in five

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Obviously, Hitler even gave credit to Jim Crow policies as being an inspiration for his generic policies.

The dixiecrats aren't ashamed of that, game recognizes game.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Related: we've all heard the stories of a time traveler going back to kill Hitler before his rise to power. One common theme in almost all those stories is that the attempt fails, that's why history is as we remember. This morning has me thinking that maybe time travel was involved in a couple of Trump assassination attempts.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 55 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This is how hitler came to power.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder when we're gonna get the Reichstag fire

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That was before he was elected, right? So the Reichstag fire was Jan 6. And the Trump history books will say it was Antifa.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I'll be honest, I'm not super familiar on the timeline.

I'm not looking forward to the future though, even less so than before :/

Oh well, we persevere

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 65 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's like watching a horror movie. You know the killer is in the basement, yet people go and have a look while the audience knows what's going to happen. A classic fuck around and find out.

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