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13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Which bloodline would that be? The great Royal bloodline of the Ancient American Empire?

What about all those people saying they're 1/16th Cherokee?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bet. So why don't all you palefaces go back to England, Ireland, Germany, Spain, France...

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please no. We already have 20-30% of people voting for fascists in Germany. We dont need more

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I heard Russia is accepting immigrants.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So, you mean everyone except the native Americans should leave America? Just trying to understand clearly the implications of what you're suggesting :P

In all seriousness, after all this time I would bet most people couldn't trace a lineage to a single country now anyway.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

They probably couldn't. And Europe being what it is, a bunch of them would have lineage going back to a country that no longer exists, i.e. if they were of any of the states that were ultimately absorbed into unified Germany in the 1800's.

It's all arbitrary. But we know damn well Trump and his goons don't mean "white" people when they say "immigrants."

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

More proof of fake respondents. Basically some people, for whatever reason (depending on the poll it could be financial) just speed run the polls with no thought about what they're clicking on. So it makes any extremely unpopular view appear more supported. I can't find much about how this was done, if it was an online opt-in poll I'd be especially suspicious.

Edit: it seems this was done with a Ipsos KnowledgePanel, which as I suspected is an online, paid, opt-in panel. This is exactly the kind of design that's prone to speed running for cash.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, how many people supported slavery and later, Jim Crow.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The funny thing, though, is that the people who supported slavery also generally supported immigration. And I don't mean by importing slaves (that too, of course). They wanted immigrants because they wanted America to grow. Sure, they didn't want black immigrants, but that's a whole other thing. When Chinese immigrants started pouring into California during the Gold Rush era, the response wasn't, "immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country!" it was "Hey! Dirt cheap labor! And stay out of the buildings with the posted 'no Chinese' signs or else."

So even those people, awful as they were, wouldn't agree.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

When Chinese immigrants started pouring into California during the Gold Rush era, the response wasn’t, “immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country!”

Chinese Exclusion Act says hi.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sooo…. A third of Americans have no problem admitting that the part of their brain that processes logic and reason is irreparably damaged.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

More like not developed. Though I suppose a bit of both.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All you pale face non-natives gyit the fuuuck out!

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was at a Ska show last night. They played a tRump ad about the border before the music. We almost left. Surreal, honestly, for the type of crowd I would expect.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Music and politics are super weird. Paul Ryan, former Republican speaker of the house, was an RATM fan until Tom Morello told him to fuck off. Ann Coulter is a massive Deadhead. So is Tucker Carlson. There's even a photo of Tucker hanging out with Jerry Garcia when he was in his 20s. The story is in an interview here if you can stomach it: https://www.maxraskin.com/interviews/interview-with-tucker-carlson

And then there's the musicians themselves- Johnny Ramone, Alice Cooper, Gene Simmons, all conservatives.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Music and right-wing politics are weird. I can't even begin to count how many bands were proudly anti-war in the 70s. Then there's the punk movement, which was highly critical of Reagan and Bush.

I guess music and a message of hope/protest works better than a message of oppression, especially when appealing to youth.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A. is about a Vietnam veteran who has been fucked over by the country he came back to.

Reagan used it as part of his flag-waving "it's morning in America" bullshit because no one listened to the lyrics beyond "I was born in the U.S.A."

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[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think this is also a problem of perspective: the US Democrats are only "left" when seen from inside the US political spectrum. Seen from the outside they barely reach a center position and would be considered conservative-right in many other countries.

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[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

After working construction for decades I can say that American workers are shit compared to foreigners. Muslim workers are the hardest. Especially from Ethiopia or Somalia. They learn fast too and are better in many cases than Mexican or SA workers. PLUS no drug or alcohol or daddy/mommy/religious issues.

When I was building in Africa we finished a project 3 days early. They didn’t even have the skills, we taught on site. That would NEVER happen with regular Americans.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Those are immigrants though. Have you ever seriously looked into the bullshit you need to go through to move to another country? It's insane.

Every immigrant is more impressive than any Olympian.

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