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[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago

Coming from Musk I still think he did it on purpose just to spite the judge.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I wonder how much this will come back to hurt the company. Musk & co. want to play dumb games? Enjoy watching all the potential Xitter users in Brazil flock to Bluesky and other platforms while your site remains in the dark.

Xitter isn’t special. People will find ways to socialize online with or without it. And the longer people go without it, the more momentum other sites will gain. Whether this stalling is deliberate or unintented doesn’t matter, the fact is they’re only hurting their own bottom line when an entire country is disengaged from their platform.

In other words, keep it up, Elon. It’s fun to see some natural consequences arise from your stupid behavior.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if it would have been brilliant if it was "Elon Musk's X Still Down in Brazil After Company Sends $5.2 Billion instead of $5.2 Million for the Fine to Charity Organization instead of Bank"

[–] grid11@lemy.nl 4 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if that insane musking urgency is in any way related to baking up local elections that will take place there some time soon

[–] Juice260@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago
[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So, there's a bank out there with some free money.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

True. To have this money we need to live in a world where social media dominates everything

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 9 hours ago

This is why you don't fire your local team in charge of local laws and regulations, Elon.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago

Brilliant.

No notes.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

On behalf of Banko del Tesoro Nacional de Veracruz Y Pavon Familia Santiago Amen de Guadalupe de Saltillo, gracias, muchisisimas gracias senior Musko!

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 hours ago

Look, I'm going to interpret this as Elon sending the money to a bank in sone other part of LatAm. Not only because Brazil's official language is Portuguese, but also because it's way funnier like this!

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

*muito obrigado

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 33 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Twitter. Twitter twitter twitter.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 3 hours ago

twitter is dead and a shit zombie stands where it was

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Xitter. Xitter xitter xitter.

(pronounced shitter)

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I also like referring to it as Shitler

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 11 hours ago

Also

‘He took to Twitter and tweeted a tweet.’

Should now be

‘He took to Xitter and xat a xit.’

The X being pronounced ‘sh’ every time.

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[–] Banichan@dormi.zone 157 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Why do they keep using younger pictures of him for these articles? Why don't they show him the way he is right now?

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 148 points 17 hours ago (7 children)
[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

That should be the header image for c/blunderyears

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Everytime I think I'm a little "out there", I remember THIS dork exists, which frees up my mind to do other things.

Like put on a mushroomhead XX logo painted jason mask, a diana ross wig, and flannel shirt so I could go to a Fiona Apple concert, mostly against my will, get up to the front of the stage and start waving my hand enthusiastically and yell "HI HIPPIE LADY!!! HELLO!!! HELLO HIPPIE LADY!!! HIIIIIII!!!!" as her bassist had to walk off stage from laughing too much, Fiona Apple looking annoyed, and 2000 people all glaring daggers at me. Luckily the crowd was 100% females besides me. So no violence towards my antics actually took place.

Times are crazy. Especially when I remember that story is like 20 years old.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

if your readers realize they keep dry heaving whenever they click one of your articles you will soon have no more readers. that troglodyte looks like a lovecraftian sea monster. no one wants to see that.

[–] M0115732@lemmy.world 72 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Did Musk e-transfer it himself? How could Xitter possibly mess this up?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 90 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Well, when you fire all the competent people solely so that you can brag about the number of people you fired…

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

NGL, if I worked at Twitter, it was probably because I get paid extremely well and there's no alternatives. So I'd absolutely phone it in. On a good day, id half ass it. And on the average day, id be copying and pasting chatGPT code directly into production servers, just enough work to not get fired, but not too much where I'll get pulled into a meeting as someone who can solve critical problems.

Gonna bet that's how every twitter employee is.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 35 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump's government efficiency guy in action, folks!

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 124 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

This is entirely on Twitter. For your average person, sending a court-ordered fine to the wrong institution means it hasn’t been paid.

Plus, theres the fact that Musk is completely untrustworthy. After all the effort it’s taken to get Twitter to pay up, I wouldn’t restore their ability to earn income from Brazilians until the fine was secured thoroughly and correctly.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 39 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

The xitter lawyers claim that there was no bank account indicated anywhere so they "had to guess" and are demanding xitter to be unlock as they paid the fine.

In other words, either they're grossly incompetent and can't read, or they're playing malicious by trying to abuse some loophole or anything to ultimately not pay the fine

EDIT: For some clarification, there is no information publicly available as to where the lawyers sent the money to, only that it wasn't the account linked to this fine, and that the lawyers are demanding the service to be restored because they claim the fine was paid, but the correct account hasn't received the money, so the fine is not paid. Alexandre de Moraes has asked Caixa Economica Federal (one of the government banks and the only one that deals with this kind of thing) to "fix" this issue so the attorney's general office can analyse the process and decide on restoring xitter's service. Elon Musk, X and the law firm representing them in Brazil are in absolutely no position to contest, much less demand, anything from the supreme court or the attorney's general office. Their actions have shown time and time again that they have no intention to play fair and regularise the issues, and they'll try what they can to create instability, animosity and general distrust against Brazil's judicial system.

The information regarding payment details for fines is ALWAYS clearly detailed on every notice, there is 0 chance that they forgot to include it or they've made a mistake and added a different account.

The more I read into this the more it looks like the law firm is being malicious instead of stupid, they're trying all that they can to not pay this fine (on behalf of X & Co.) and also create instability/animosity against the supreme court, specially considering what Musk has done and been doing for this whole case.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Guess when you're sending 5 million? Yeah right.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

so they "had to guess"

Or they could ask 🤷‍♂️

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 5 points 8 hours ago

Or they could keep reading the notice(s) and check out all the clearly stated details on who, where and how to send the fine payment

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. Or Musk never expected to pay the fine, so his lawyers never bothered to research the bank where he owed the money.

I hope the government didn't let Musk leave the country until his fine was settled.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah but here's the thing, the details for payment of such things is always clearly disclosed on whichever notice they've received, and probably this was sent multiple times. Also the lawyers appointed by xitter are Brazilian, in a Brazilian firm, so they are familiar with how this works and the system is not dubious or misleading or confusing at all.

Like I've said, they're either grossly incompetent to a point that they can't read anything, or they're trying their "best" to avoid paying the fine but their best is comically pathetic at most.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 2 points 7 hours ago

Source for what, the lawyers claiming the payment detail wasn't specified?

https://www.reuters.com/technology/musks-x-seek-resumption-brazil-service-fines-paid-sources-say-2024-10-04/

https://g1.globo.com/politica/blog/daniela-lima/post/2024/10/04/x-realiza-deposito-em-conta-errada-e-moraes-manda-app-regularizar-pagamento.ghtml

https://g1.globo.com/politica/blog/julia-duailibi/post/2024/10/04/x-diz-que-moraes-nao-especificou-conta-e-pede-volta-ao-ar-sem-analise-da-pgr.ghtml

I can't provide you any source on how the fine notices of this nature look like since I have never commited anything to amount a hefty fine like this, but every single official document, bill, notice or whatever you may call it in which requires someone to pay something to the government, you will find extensive details on the account numbers and where to pay. They are not forgetting or not including this information.

Like I have said before and will say it again, the Brazilian law firm Xitter has hired is either comprised of the freshest graduated lawyers that never worked with something like this, or they can't read, or they're intentionally playing malicious to avoid paying the fine and causing as much instability as they can on behalf of Musk.

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[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 86 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Keep in mind this is "X, the everything app". Musk expects it to be your one stop on the internet for everything, including online banking.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

"Why do one thing well when you can be bad at everything instead"

  • Leon Skum
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 45 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who wants the internet to be like this... It's hard to describe adequately.

The idea makes me as angry as I was when I was a kid and first heard about the destruction of the library of Alexandria. It is a deep dark rage.

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

With proper open protocols for communication with various services such a 'everything' app could become a thing at some point.

Where I live we already have a single app (owned for a large part by the govt) we can use to log in to most official services, and any decent-size service can apply to offer log in using it. Going from that concept it really isn't too much of a stretch to an "everything app" becoming a thing.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

proper open protocols

Yeah that will never, ever happen, especially if the app is successful. We would have to legally force them

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Your thing and Leon's dream has one major difference. Thanks to those open protocols, multiple companies could build everything apps and compete on service, with all of them being able to access all you need.

Leon does not want Twitter to be an everything app, he wants it to be the everything app that you can't escape, owns all your data, and you can't get on with doing basic shit without paying him money.

He basically wants to monopolize everything, because he's bad at competition, because he's bad at it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Things being "a thing" are not the same as "acceptable outcomes occurring"

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