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[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 15 points 20 hours ago

Wow the cartoonist really destroyed their opponent in this imaginary scenario!

Also why tf does the boy have demonic eyes

[–] uservoid1@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Now?! When I read it squinting?

[–] uservoid1@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Was easier for me to look for a readable version than to strain my eyes.

Oddly, the numbers in the 9th and 10th panels are different between the cartoonist's tumblr (my link) and facebook (op image) versions.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Different groups also went to war with each other, which is much more interesting than the fallacious claim that ‘they all got along’.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do not understand the need to whitewash (hah!) indigenous history to erase wars and conflict. Humans fight each other, and indigenous humans are human just like white humans.

What they didn't do is war at the scale that white people have done. That's the innovation.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

the need to whitewash (hah!) indigenous history to erase wars and conflict

"The noble savage" myth thing rearing its' ugly head again, not too different than "only aliens could have built the pyramids/Machu Pichu/the Moai".

I wonder why they never say the same thing about the Parthenon, or the Great Wall of China, or so many huge structures in India. Some may be a little more recent, sure, but it's all still about lifting pretty big rocks.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

“The noble savage” myth thing rearing its’ ugly head again, not too different than "only aliens could have built the pyramids/Machu Pichu/the Moai.

It's very sad. As someone who is deeply interested in the reasoning and behaviors of cultures at war, how they justify themselves, how they justify their actions, their policies and dispositions, it always upsets me when I see the notion that everyone except white folk, or by some of the more slightly-aware advocates, everyone except complex settled societies, lived in peace and harmony. But it's just another projection of moral judgement on an issue that shouldn't have it. Other cultures are not fables for you to teach your own rotted society, where the children no longer respect their elders and everyone is ~~writing a book~~ starting a podcast; they're unique and multifaceted societies that deserve accurate study in their own right.

Pre-state societies are often very violent, which is part of the reason why examining their tools for conflict resolution is so important. With weak centralized decision-making structures (like a state or commune-esque protostate), people have to get creative, and it's very fascinating.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is a very fascinating topic to me as well and would love to learn more.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Anthropology deals with it a lot!

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm aware. It's hard for me to navigate anthropology though. I can find some info on the Web, but I don't really know what to look for, with books.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Helps to know it's divided into 4 sub-diciplines: Physical Anthro, Cultural Anthro, Archeology, and Linguistics. Each of these would approach the various questions through their own lense, finding the one that matches your topic interest best. You're probably gonna want to look for things regarding cultural anthro, since that's gonna handle the "why" of war more directly

[–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I am intrigued by your views and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but that's not good propaganda which is 95% of the reason the disinformation hub Hexbear exists.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

a segment of lemmy loves to look down condescendingly on folks from .ml and hexbear

two quick questions though, how did a discuss on Australia turn into you accusing hexbear users? and what's your .world alt?

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

folks

Not accurate to call them that, plenty of them are LLMs.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Might be because the image is a Hexbear link, though this is probably one of the least objectionable things I've ever seen from Hexbear.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, that sounds like the history of Canada too!

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And the USA! And most of Europe before the Romans!

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

And everywhere else on the planet throughout human history.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Technically, most of that is pre-history, since history is defined as the written record of what happened in the past.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

Which is a pretty stupid definition that lots of historians nowadays dont really agree with anymore

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does this kid have demon bug eyes?

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

I'm pretty sure they're just empty eye sockets... Which makes me wonder why he's pretending to read the paper? 🤔

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TIL the word corroboree, neat.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Happy Cakeday! 🍰🎂

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

That was really cool, thanks for sharing

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't use that, super broken

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

It works fine for me on my desktop using Firefox with NoScript to block facebook, google and whatever ensighten is. Probably not the cause of your issues though, but in case it is.

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Yeah this is fantasy.

Oh, I thought this meme was meant to be a documentary on school-age children. Now that I know that it isn't, I can...

... what do I do with this information, again?

Seriously, I might quibble as to the line between history and prehistory (which a good portion of that 60,000 years would be), but there's nothing here that's fundamentally wrong.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

Thanks for clarifying. I thought this web comic was a word for word script of a real life conversation /s