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"citizens on their best behavior" "big brother is always watching"

Don't sound very different to me

[–] SitD@lemy.lol 9 points 20 hours ago

billionaires and their super important opinions eh? having money is a personality trait apparently

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 9 points 20 hours ago

And who will decide what is good and bad behaviour? Hmm? And what advantage will society as a whole get from this?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

“People behave themselves in a panopticon”-rich people

Firstly no, people don’t. Second, they go crazy in one. And third, this basically breaks down the threads of both community and individualism to create a miserable nightmare

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

billionaires who talk like this should immediately be committed. he's clearly far gone, just fucking take him away.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

Wait, isn't this the father of Megan Ellison, the owner of Annapurna Interactive? The woman who just made her entire team so mad they quit.

[–] 5paceThunder@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Larry, AI didn't stop you from stealing an island from the people of Hawaii

[–] NoMadMan@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is this what Ted Kaczyinski (the Unabomber) warned against?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

That and global warming

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago
[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe billionaires should be filmed and streamed continuously, since their behavior has such a big impact on the world. If they don't like it maybe we shouldn't allow them to control such incredible assets. I'm sure billionaires have nothing sketchy to hide, right? What we will see is probably how they are hard working people who are not at all detached from normal folks. Right?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 20 points 1 day ago

Wrong think detected, proper authority has been notified.

Resitence iis futile.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ever notice that Larry Ellison looks like Satan?

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought satan looks like that

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

If that’s the devil maybe I should be glad being gay is getting me sent into her arms

[–] Ranta@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

He looks like if Tim Allen upped his coke intake

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

By "citizens" he means poor people, naturally, and by "best behaviour" he means obedience to authority.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

And by authority he means himself.

[–] chromolium_falcon@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in bad country the ruling class uses AI scoring system to ensure the compliance of the workers

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So glad we live in good country where the ruling class are benevolent and would never do that to us.

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

I'm missing emoji reactions (not replies), jeje

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

"[Stupid rich person shit]"

--Larry Ellison, soon to be major shareholder of Paramount

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"We're going to have supervision," Ellison said. "Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there's a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on."

And if we entertained the idea that this was true and the core focus of this idea (it's not) what do we think the chances are that the "appropriate person" will be one of two things:

  1. Another cop

  2. A subscription service digital surveillance company with that cop as a client that they report back to for "internal investigation", as long as the bill is paid.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Even if his vision for the future worked perfectly (which it won't) and wasn't abused (which it will be, rampantly and immediately), it's still a complete dystopian nightmare lol

[–] NoMadMan@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Like the police unions will ever permit the policing of the police 🤣🤣🤣

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 179 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And I guarantee that billionaire Larry Ellison blithely believes that he'll be exempt - that all of this surveillance will just be used against the little people. And he's almost certainly right.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He will be exempt. The areas that he lives in and the things that he does will not be tagged as "criminal" on the data system that he has the contract to administer.

That's always how these systems work. You don't worry about getting dragged into the Saudi Consulate and bonesawed to death by intelligence officers when you're MBS, because you're the boss and the guy getting bonesawed is your employee.

For the same reason, you don't worry about getting spied on when you're the one who owns and operates the big surveillance infrastructure because it exists for your benefit.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The first XKCD that comes to mind

Ellision sounds like the kind of guy that wants an unstoppable army of robot swarms.

Representative Jamie Raskin recently brought up the term neo-monarchy.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Emboldened oligarch in a plutocracy.

But also kleptocracy and really a kakistocracy disguised outwardly as an aristocracy or neo-monarchy as Raskin said.

Outside of just saying "America" or "Capitalism" How do we combine all of this into one satisfying, effective term?

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

I think that word is tyranny, if we’re sticking with Greek.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

I say a single bullet at the right place and time can ensure 'this stupid motherfucker never has anything else to say ever' | Business Insider India

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 97 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. - Ursula K Le Guin

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[–] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Only the fact that he is able to say shit like that out loud is a sign of a rotting society. People are ok with being their slaves

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 102 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Owner of Cloud company that sells AI services tells governments that AI-powered surveillance is good.

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"Will it blend?" - in today's episode, Larry Ellison, massive waste of skin and resources.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

Fuck you Larry.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

sounds like a nazi

Put yourself on public camera streams first as a test. I bet this guy is not always on his best behavior

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He’s voicing what every billionaire and government official already thinks. Call me pessimist but I believe it’s unavoidable. VPNs are seen as “tools to overcome government bans to access illegal websites” in so many countries, hence getting banned. Access to mainstream websites also getting harder and harder when on VPN. People hosting Tor exit nodes are living in fear of police raids.

Even with some little amount of privacy protecting measures, websites start to act strangely or do not work, and the amount of websites like this increases every day. As protecting our privacy becomes a bigger and bigger effort, more people will give up, strengthening the arguments against it. Eventually we’ll hit big brother levels.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Eventually we’ll hit big brother levels.

As someone who was born before the age of surveillance capitalism, I can tell you we've hit that level a long time ago. Anybody who thinks society has been running normally for at least the past 15 years is too young to have known what a normal society is.

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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

So the Panopticon. The hypothetical prison that even people in the 1800s thought would be a human rights violation to build because it was such an extreme form of psychological torture.

[–] NoMadMan@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

When envisioning the rising of such surveillance system turning our prison into a planet, I had always hoped that the "hackers" in the world would protect us from such.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

My best behavior is to be on Larry Ellison's front yard with pitchforks burning torches and guillotines.

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