X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's content orders : technology

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 169 points 2 months ago

Congrats Brazil

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 133 points 2 months ago

“Brazil sees massive drop in alt right hate speech”

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago

finally some fucking good news

[+] downpunxx@fedia.io 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

true, but they had a local presence for reasons that benefited them; legal, operational, commercial, strategic, whatever. So I'll take it as good news.

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But it isn't. Now people get to spread misinformation to Brazilians with no repercussions.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

and do you think there were repercussions before?

whatsapp does this misinformation job immensely better

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

and do you think there were repercussions before?

For X? Sure, that's why they're leaving in the first place - by not complying to the judge's orders, they'd surely get slapped with fines and such. As a company, it makes sense to leave and avoid being accountable, but given the influence they (sadly) still have in the media, avoiding those repercussions and letting bad actors do their thing, they're adding gasoline to the burning world.

The fact that Whatsapp is more popular in Brazil than X is beside the point.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

They can just block the IP in Brazil too

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess because they didn't read the article. Although even the headline implies this with the word "operations", so I guess the people celebrating in this thread are just stupid and/or coping.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Complete X ban doesn't seem too far-fetched to me after this, as they have closed the offices, they won't be able to moderate stuff...

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 months ago

What's going to happen the next time the government or judges called them from something? They don't respond and the judge are going to order the ISP to stop forward data from and to them, blocking them on Brazil. It's not even going to be the first time, brazillian judges have had fights with whatapp before, and for a couple of days whataap have been blocked. Whatapp move like 10% of the Brazilian economy, so it was solved quickly, Twitter is nowhere as relevant and nobody is going to care when its end blocked.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because it led to eventual ban https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/30/brazil-orders-suspension-of-elon-musks-x.html

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Lucky for them

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Well-played, Brazil

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

One down couple hundred more to go.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

GOOD. Elon doesnt get to taunt us with a coup unpunished.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You apparently forget he said Twitter needed major before he bought it.

It's by design. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

i know and this is why banning it is a good thing. fuck twitter.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Earlier this year, Moraes ordered X to block certain accounts, as he investigates so-called "digital militias" that have been accused of spreading fake news and hate messages during the government of far-right former President Jair Bolsonaro.

That sounds very "on brand" for the company these days.

Should journalists start referring to the platform as "the far-right hate speech platform formerly known as Twitter"?

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Too wordy. Try: Naxi.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

I like it. I really enjoy calling it Xitter though.

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Brazil does not fuck around. They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn't hand over some emails a few years ago.

Edit: Skype data not emails and one exec

[+] Endward23@futurology.today -6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn’t hand over some emails a few years ago.

And somehow, thats a good thing? To break the security of communication on demand of the gouverment?

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never said it was a good thing. I was just commenting on the aggressive nature of Brazil LEO. Microsoft in particular bends over backwards for any gov't or LEO. I can only assume the Feds got substantial leverage over them, perhaps by manipulating the antitrust cases. Same tactics they use on the smaller guys works on the big corps too I guess. Top customer of MS legal compliance is by far the US Fed with 5000-7000 blanket surveillance of Americans presumably part of PRISM. Second highest is definitely Brazil, and they are very demanding and impatient.

Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov't intrusion into customer privacy. It sounded perfect. Customer gets encryption keys so MS cannot comply with lawful interception requests. I think Apple does this, and it works well for them and their customers. However today I cannot tell if MS lied, dismantled this aspect of this feature, or buried it such that no one uses this ability.

While we're talking about MS playing snitch, watch out for Windows 11 and the TPM hardware requirement. Sure this might be a useful tool to fight ransomware scammers, but it definitely can also be used to fingerprint a PC and make everything potentially traceable. Look up machine identification code aka yellow dots for a nifty parallel in the printer world (pun intended).

[–] Endward23@futurology.today 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov’t intrusion into customer privacy.

Got it. Sorry for the missunderstanding.

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Hopefully you don't care, but in case you do I didn't downvote you. I was not offended, but I am grateful I had an opportunity to share some of the unique insights I've experienced.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 17 points 2 months ago

Excellent

[–] Endward23@futurology.today 13 points 2 months ago

I really wonder how long X aka Twitter can operate within the EU. The EU is on a smiliar tracetion in my opinion.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I would not mind if my countries' judges grew the same kind of brass balls that the Brazilain Judge sports.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

This Nazi war-mongering website needs to be shut down everywhere.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So Bolsonaro won't get elected again, uh.

I'm surprised to be saying this but thank you Elon Muppet.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

afaik he's still barred from running for office until 2030, as a result of undermining the validity of the electoral process - the same process that once elected him btw...

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He'll be 75yo in '30. Still viable as a candidate.

And, for '26, he's still the one deciding who's going to run for his party. One of the options is his wife Michelle Bolsonaro, a vulture from the same flock as her husband.

Now with Twitter out of the equation* they'll have a harder reaching their base.

EDIT: actually scrap that. It's only its offices, the service will be still available. Fuck it, now I'm sour.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

Lol they need to shut down in Indonesia as well Twitter regularly accept censorship request from Indonesian government

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Made me think this was the good news community.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Good for Brazilians I guess

[+] JapanUSAcologne@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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