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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

To the surprise of no one, it's just a matter of time until local accounts in personal windows editions are removed entirely.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I bought a pro license because of basic features being stripped out of home over time - here's to hoping it's ONLY home licenses that get abused.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

They don‘t even stop at enterprise level. You have to adjust a lot using intune and other tools to make windows enterprise not a privacy nightmare that may even be illegal to force your workers to work with.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried a non Unix distribution from our lord and saviour Linus

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've watched the other Linus (the one with the tech tips) on a month long daily driver challenge for Linux and I just can't bring myself to dive in voluntarily for all the headaches and incompatibilities I know I'll uncover - those presented, and about a thousand others sure to come up for each individual user.

I used to LOVE flashing roms on my devices. Started with my PSP, installing CFW so I could install homebrew. Then it was my phone and I loved the flexibility to do things Android couldn't do or didn't want me to be able to do. It was basically a hobby all unto itself, checking for new feature updates, sometimes taking a nightly build to fix a bug, finding a problem and deep diving for the right root application to fix it, whatever the case. Now I do too much with my phone to have a broken user created 5g radio, or GPS is currently broken in this ROM, or my homescreen glitches out when I switch apps rapidly. I just don't have the patience or time for my phone that I need to be able to trust to work - to not work, and good luck finding the root cause.

Same sort of deal with my PC. I already have a VERY unusual setup to begin with, using Aster v7 to multiseat both my wife and myself on the same computer. It's over specced to the point that we can pretty easily play games simultaneously without issue. Aster SOMETIMES presents usability issues, but nothing like what Linux would do. And while I haven't investigated it, I'd bet that it would be a real struggle to replicate this setup in Linux. But my weird edge case aside, I'm fully capable and yet completely disinterested in converting because I just need it to work, for everything I'm doing, and without a 2 hour rabbit hole on why I can't install this one dependency I need.

I have a couple bootable flash drives laying around and have dualbooted computers in the past. But I just don't think I could fully migrate today.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Well, he had chosen manjaro.. So, I was not surprised. He would have had a way better time by either stick to fedora and flatpaks, or EndeavourOS and installing everything from AUR/extra/EndeavourOS repos via yay.

Or maybe something Debian based.. but I already see him installing a .deb instead of adding the source to APT and get confused about no Updates.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

😇and about your multiseat setup. After a short internet search, it seems, that this is a feature of the displays server x.org, which can be used with any Linux: https://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/Multiseat/

This is not meant as Attack, this is just a info I want to share with you!

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's good to know I have options! Aster is already the singular solution on Windows as far as I can tell, and for good reason I figure... this is a pretty fringe need. But at least I know I can potentially replicate the setup on Linux - I'll for sure look in to that.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago
[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I absolutely understand the extra work worry. I worry Microsoft is killing Windows consumers slowly enshutifying it by turning the heat up slowly. I hope not but i expect it will reach a point where it will no longer be the product you recognise. I do highly reccomend dual booting to learn when you have the energy. I recently switched back and have been very impressed by nixos approach to configuration based system wide configuration. Its dam fantastic novel approach, my OS and apps are configured via files and if i screw up to it’s easy as rebooting and selecting the previous config. It took me 2 hours to get everything configured as a newbie including hdr. I am now done, have nothing more to tinker and have a future proof computer which in my opinion saves me significantly more time than windows. For example if i reinstall, i just add my config to the installation and done. Literally everything is setup exactly how i like it from os to apps.

If you ever do decide to try out Linux there are plenty of us ex Windows users in the community that are willing to help where we can.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

Won't happen. A majority of windows users are corporate and they use windows domain.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 32 points 5 months ago

operating system

You misspelled "spyware with a program loader strapped to it".

[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago

Windows is a good Linux advertisement

Linux is a good *BSD advertisement

*BSD is a good Plan9 advertisement

Plan9 is dead

Guess I'll live in the woods 🤷

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As much as I hate advocating FOR subscriptions. If Microsoft told me for $10 a month I could just have windows with all the options for me to run it HOW I FUCKING WANT as opposed to how they think I should. Id pay it.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Out of support

Though a subscription for Windows to just be Linux is a silly premise

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I dont want to have to use what limited spare time I have to learn how to use Linux, I dont have the time its that simple. I have a pc, it just WORKS. Literally everything I want to do just works. I just want to have the start menu do exactly what I want, stop recommending me onedrive, stop showing me advertisements in outlook and stop giving us privacy invading features nobody wants.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

just works. I just want to have the start menu do exactly what I want, stop recommending me onedrive, stop showing me advertisements in outlook and stop giving us privacy invading features nobody wants.

You just described Linux

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What does not just work on mint, that you need?

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have to set up my pc for dual boot, choose a distro, install it, get it to work if theres any issues, then sort out whats different then try and install all my apps and games to figure out what does and doesnt work from those.

Its not that I dislike Linux or have anything against it but Ive been running Windows since 1996, I know how to do things already. I just want MS to just stop being "helpful" and fuck off. The quest for ongoing revenue means that is unlikely though.

I might give Linux a try when my daughter is a bit older and I have some free time. I like the IDEA of it, but I know Windows now and already.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

You do not need to choose a distro -> already defined as mint..

You don’t need to do a dual boot in order to test what works. Just use the stick to liveBoot into mint but don’t start the linux installer. In this way, you can test if the things you need do just work without changing anything on the windows HD/SS

But my question was about what isn’t just working, which was your argument prior for not using Linux and now it turned out, that you not seem to know, I guess