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Citra will also be shutting down :(

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[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This sucks hard. They likely knew they could not overcome Nintendo's infinite money for legal proceedings, and if they lost they could have been on the hook for far more than this settlement amount.

The upside is this has no legal impact, but the downside is they were the best-positioned group to take this to trial.

Now Nintendo is going to start going after the smaller guys, who definitely can't afford to fight.

[–] bekopharm@social.tchncs.de 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@t3rmit3 @chloyster The message is clear: Do not touch anything Nintendo.

For me that includes games as well. Greedy §$"%!$

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep, I'm not getting any Nintendo systems or games, but I will continue to enjoy fan-made ROM-hack games, played on emulators. :)

Nintendon't get any more of my money.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 9 points 8 months ago

Yeah home-brew seemed like the obvious point at this for the whole "only used for pirating" argument.

I have switch emulators for older/other consoles... homebrew projects definitely exist. I think Yuzu just didn't want to fight the fight. They likely had/have some really good arguments to put Nintendo down...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Now Nintendo is going to start going after the smaller guys, who definitely can’t afford to fight.

The plus side is Ryujinx is Free Open Source Software so a million forks can begun being made right now. Yuzu had closed source aspects, which was its downfall in replication from this point forward. Ryujinx will likely have thousands of clone repositories made after today alone.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People need to make sure they pull the code off of github and put it up on other sites, preferably private repos. Github has already dealt with other 'banned' projects by going through all forks and even re-uploads of them and cleaning house.

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 6 points 8 months ago

Speaking of, here's a full backup of the Ryujinx repo, including commit history.

[–] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm so mad that Citra was also killed because of this. This means that 3DS emulation is effectively dead, since the next best emulator, Panda3DS, can't run most games...

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Get a copy of it now. There may not be more development on it, but you'll be able to keep playing the games that work already on it

[–] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

I already had it installed via Flathub, hopefully it won't somehow uninstall itself 😅 (Or that I ever need to wipe my system...)

[–] Chinzon@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is there any repository that was saved of the latest build? It was pulled off flathub and github...

[–] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Not that I know of :c If anyone knows, I'd like to know.

[–] wobbly9570@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is the first mention I've seen of Citra also shutting down...

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago
[–] Uvine_Umbra@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Fucking hell... Makes sense though, they earned 30k a year, 200k ain't enough to challenge the bankroll potential of Nintendo.

this is beyond awful, especially to us with broken switches who want to play the games we own in these times, and everyone who can't/ won't afford their shit.

This is the bullshit that deserves shouting and death threats, not people making a subpar decision for a game or a bad one.

[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

This is the bullshit that deserves shouting and death threats

wut

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 12 points 8 months ago

Well this isn't the news I wanted to hear from this...

[–] NoOnesLazyInLazyTown@beehaw.org 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if anybody knows this, but Nintendo's aggressive tirade on emulators and fangames is a symptom of Japan's strict copyright laws, given that it's a Japanese company and one of those that follow it to its words.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 6 points 8 months ago

That's why Sega was so notorious for shutting down fan projects as well in the past (they have since softened their stance however, provided projects are non-commercial), although I don't think it's the entire story. Sony lost against the groundbreaking Bleem! emulator back in the PS1 days and I'm not aware of them being litigious in this regard since.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wanted to see the case on court tho

[–] BotCheese@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i havent read the documents but i assume this would be in japanese courts, where it pretty much a guaranteed loss on yuzu's part.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is actually in the US court. The documents are quite interesting to read.

[–] BotCheese@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

there could have been a chance then. no shame on the devs though. that is a costly battle to fight.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Considering they were making enough to agree to pay 2.4 million to Nintendo, they were making bank of the emulator.

If it went to court, this would've been much much higher.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Over on Hackernews, a dev from a German emulator project that Nintendo shut down was saying that their settlement included a similarly large sum of money, but it was only actually to be paid if the other conditions of the settlement weren't met, and that if they were, the "debt" was dropped after x years, basically insurance to ensure compliance.