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[–] tret@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (16 children)

This is really hard for me to get behind. On the one hand I can get behind the compassion and safety aspect. Addicts have a sickness and shouldn’t be treated as criminals who have no value and are disposable. On the other hand, I have personal experience with just how much damage an addict does to those around them. Enabling them to do that damage and victimize the very people who love and once trusted them with everything feels wrong.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm not convinced that safe and legal drug taking will enable addicts any more than they're already so.

Also there are many recreational drug takers who don't harm society.

[–] tret@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sure, I don’t think this will enable them more than any other source. I guess in my case with the difficulties I’ve experienced, the pain my kids and I are still experiencing, any source of the substance at the root of it is hard to accept.

[–] Fifteen_Two@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the substance though, it's the structures around them. I suppose when you have personal experice with the harms of drugs, as directly as you are describing, it would become difficult to care about that distinction though.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't remove the substance from the equation entirely like that. Yes there are a lot of other problems too, but pretending meth or fentanyl or whatever isn't harmful on its own is not helping.

Remember the drugs are usually the catalyst that get people on the street. People can hold it together right up until they become addicted, then the substance makes everything worse.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not an addict yet. But I'm addicted to the street. I can't say your statement is a constant truth. My addiction to the street is based off adrenaline, not trap sold drugs. I've never done more than weed and mushrooms - a long time ago.

The streets about freedom, people aren't necessarily there for drugs. But drugs play a huge role in how people into the freedom of street life survive. If you're selling drugs you can be free. The fiends are pawns and used like cattle for cash. It's really twisted and fucked up and I often wonder why people push so hard for trendy political change but aren't willing to bring it to street thugs. Some people even make their money killing. The amount of shit I've gathered from having one foot in the street... I guarantee there is no such thing as law an order in America. Unless maybe you have money your might see some of that traditional American image.

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