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Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally (arstechnica.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to c/steamdeck@sopuli.xyz

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This will probably be the biggest competition the Steam Deck has within the handheld PC space.

Most noteworthy is that windows is finally focusing on providing a decent handheld experience, including booting straight to a controller friendly interface, and reducing background processes for better fps and battery.

Edit: The handheld Xbox UI will.come to all windows PCs, but it's not clear if the reduced performance bloat version will be available. It sounds like only Xbox branded devices may get the full benefit of optimized windows.

It's also the ugliest handheld PC yet (imo), but I can appreciate that they're pushing for comfort over looks.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

So... if this device does not come with some kind of even more locked down than normal bootloader/uefi/tpm system...

We know that SteamOS is roughly 15% faster at running games, 15% more fps in a same for same hardware and game settings comparison.

They say its running a stripped down (aka debloated) version of Win 11, but frankly, I call bullshit.

Sure, it may take a bit for proper driver support to be developed for the new Z2 apus... but uh...

You can just buy this thing, wipe out windows, flash SteamOS or Bazzite onto it, and get more FPS, and now you basically exist in the SteamOS ecosystem (or also GOG or whatever).

At that point, MSFT has functionally built a product that will be used on their competitor's ecosystem... when the whole point of this thing is to keep people in the Xbox ecosystem.

Uh, also... does this thing come with CoPilot?

Is it just gonna be or at least be capable of ... snapping automatic acreen grabs of everything you are doing, all the time?

Also, don't forget to keep paying for Xbox ~~Live~~ Gamepass... for the privelege... of all of this?

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I dunno, I kind of believe them when they claim they seriously debloated Windows. I bet they actually used SteamOS benchmarks to sway the higher ups to be allowed to do this. It will be interesting to see benchmarks when this thing is released.

Although I also believe that they would lock down the bootloader. And not release this mode to the general public. They haven't been very lenient with the media people testing these things. They weren't even allowed make their own videos of the interface or games running on them.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I mean, I can't of course prove anything, but uh.

I used to work for MSFT.

I very much doubt thet are capable of meaningfully streamlining Windows.

And uh also no, no, the SteamOS Benchmarks came out less than a week before this announcement.

This announcement means they have been working on this project for a year or so, at least, and just haven't publically mentioned anything definitive untill now.

They already have the whole thing designed and agreements worked out with all the mfg partners involved.

You don't do a public announcement for a release in a few months unless you've got the assembly line and logistics systems in place ready to start cranking these things out after maybe a few more weeks of minor touchups.

You don't just have a single big meeting and then BLAM! That is not how this works.

Most likely, around the time the SteamDeck OLED came out, as in you can buy one now, came out... thats around the time MSFT had at least some higher ups and teams start brainstorming making their own, and then at some point about a year ago, they decided to actually do it.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that this "streamlined, gaming-first" development team will last right up to the moment they come into conflict with any other corporate goal.

You're not doing AI-first? You're not injecting Bing into every experience? Where are all the ads? Oops, so sorry, your role has been made redundant.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty much exactly.

There are so, so many tech bros who build their identity around not being replacable... when in fact, they are.

Then their identity collapses and they become crypto bros, some other kind of obvious start-up scammers...

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