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[–] Spike@feddit.de 143 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Happening in Germany right now, we are at step 2

[–] mostvexingparse@lemmy.world 95 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Step 3. The CDU knew the AfD would vote with them (and without the nazi votes they wouldn't have been able to pass this legislation).

[–] albert180@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

They didn't knew they even made a deal in advance, which makes it worse

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

seems like we learned nothing.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

For what it's worth, this lasted longer tha Weimar. So we did get better and all it took was losing everything and decades of occupation and a huge Cold War where both sides kinda needed us as the battlefield.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Modern Germany has much stronger checks and balances than Weimar though right?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 28 points 10 months ago

those can be removed easily once in power and the "conservatives" have blocked probes into police violence and systemic racism as well as fascist terrorist groups inside the police for decades. So if the constitutional court rules against such a government it is very well possible that they just get ignored or worse attacked by the government.

Democracy doesnt survive through laws and institutions. It survives through the people involved in the political and governmental processes to uphold. And the German "conservative" parties are happy to hurt democracy if it gets them back into power and to do the equivalent of "owning the libs". They have considerably radicalized and are trying to do things like Trump did.

[–] harry315@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

sighs

HANS! HOL DEN FLAMMENWERFER WIEDER RAUS!

[–] Bibez@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] zaphod@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Step 4 was skipped. We're either at 3 with what happened in Thüringen this week or 5 (also Thüringen, Landkreis Sonneberg).