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[–] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's all about plausible deniability. The US didn't want to arm them with anything that could reach Moscow and hit Russian territory in general, but the Ukrainians have developed the ability to do so on their own, so now US officials I think are more willing to discuss these things, since it can't be directly traced to them (since now Russia can't prove it was specifically American armaments or equipment used whenever it gets hit inside it's territory).

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

but the Ukrainians have developed the ability to do so on their own

no they haven't they're using artilery equipment we gave them.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

no they haven't they're using artilery equipment we gave them.

Don't blatantly lie.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-weapons-can-hit-russia-targets-430-miles-away-zelenskyy-2023-9 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-develops-weapon-zelenskyy-says-1.6953132

So, if you wanna say "oh secretly it was still the US that supplied the drones or whatever", extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These weapons are the kind of thing the Ukrainians have developed to "retaliate" against random civilian housing blocks whenever Russia craters a command center. They're basically modern V1/V2 rockets "This will terrify the russian population into submission!!"

While i don't doubt Russian civilians have gotten hurt or killed, ukraine isn't targeting city centers or hospitals deliberately the way Russia has.

[–] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Lol really.

How many Russian civilians has Ukraine "indiscriminately killed", compared to Russia's "collateral damage" when they target "Ukranian command centers".

Reading this sort of abject nonsense on a day where a Ukranian market was hit with an S300, killing.a minimum 16 people, or when Russia spent the whole winter trying to freeze Ukrainians to death, or bombs cafés where authors and journalists are known to congregate...

You know what, just fuck you, you genocidal apologist. And fuck Russia, nation of barbarians.

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