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[–] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 81 points 1 year ago (58 children)

15 billion to private companies to retool and whatever. But then they sell us what they make. None of that goes back to the tax payers.

If you work for someone else in this country you are a joke it seems.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree with your sentiment, ~2/3rds of it according to the article isn't being given to them but being available in loans. So the article should say $5.5 given away, and $10 billion made avaliable to pay back.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Loans are costs too. It's tying up capital that could be used elsewhere

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more like investment, especially if it saves jobs. It can be a win-win. Companies have it easier time switching to EV manufacturing, which helps those companies and the environment. Manufacturing jobs are saved, both giving a living to a lot of people and helping communities and saving on benefit payments.

Could of course backfire or go to shit but investments like this from states seem like a very wise move imo.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take loan

Spend it on stock buybacks

Buy a senator or 50

Profit

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't exactly be surprised if that happens but I'm not pessimistic enough to think it will hah. I'd imagine plenty of them will actually use the money for EV transition since that really is the direction things are going anyway.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s tying up capital that could be used elsewhere

I'm not sure that's the case when you're the government and can and do print money. Not every rule of finance applies to the entity that gives credibility to the currency in the first place. This is also why the concept of governmental debt is much less meaningful than the concept of individual debt.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

The government is limited in monetary policy by inflation.

Of course, the Petrodollar doesn't really have this problem, but it ends up exporting inflation around the world.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

And yet when it comes time to talk about student loans suddenly that the government is broke.

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