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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What speculation? It’s literally spyware. You are giving it full low level access to your processor.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Don't get me wrong, Vanguard is BS, and I quit playing riot games because of it. However, simply having low level access isn't sufficient to classify it as spyware, otherwise drivers would be spyware. I still haven't seen any evidence that it currently does anything nefarious with that access, which means it's quite unlikely it's being used for mass surveillance.

To me, there are 2 problems: 1) It could be used for targeted attacks, and the likelihood anyone would find out is much lower than in a widespread surveillance scenario. 2) It could be used to deploy a massive bot-net.

I think the US reclassification here is precautionary in nature.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Except drivers are designed to interact with hardware and to make it usable, kernel-level anticheats are designed to specifically scan/block/etc software. They are pretty different with their intended purposes, even though they offer the same/similar invasiveness.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. I avoid kernel-level anti-cheat not because of any known spying they do (and honestly, anything w/ user-level privileges can read all your personal data), but that they add yet another attack vector for a bad actor. I highly doubt Vanguard gets as much security scrutiny as drivers, for example.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yep, agreed. It's the potential for exploitation that's the main issue.

And the lack of a reason for vendors to put security first. "It's just a game" or whatever, so they'll do the bare minimum to keep the money flowing.

Drivers, on the other hand, make or break a sale, because it makes the product look bad. So if a driver gets exploited, customers are likely to buy from a competitor. If that happens w/ a game, players will get pissed but keep playing the game.