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What does it take in terms of assets, abilities, and/or income for you to consider them wealthy?

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[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That’s a totally obtainable goal!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For everyone? Do you really believe that?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

Everyone? No.

Anyone? Maybe.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you max out your ROTH IRA every year until retirement that is possible (for the US). Yes, I believe one can easily save and invest in index funds. Based on compound interest with a return rate of 3-7% one could expect 450,000-1.05 mil after 35 years of working. That’s 583$ post tax dollars a month.

Post kids it’s been more difficult but I even picked up an extra job to make sure I can max out my retirement investments.

For everyone? Absolutely not. It is obtainable though. Even half of that per month would result in similarly good returns. The problem is investment education. Reminds me of my local communist reading group who to my surprise didn’t know anything about investing even though capital is like their whole thing.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Max contributions to a ROTH IRA is $7,000. Most people don't have an extra $7,000 lying around. If you do, chances are you're already in the top 10%.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would still say that’s not true… I probably make half as much as you but I just try to be extremely frugal… just saying it’s doable

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I do make maximum contributions, but I also have two kids with college funds and a mortgage that I'm paying down. We're comfortable, and I consider myself extremely fortunate for the life I've built for myself.

Unfortunately, it took me a while to pay off college debts, and then the 2008 crash wiped out a lot of our savings. I don't expect to ever have enough saved to actually retire.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For everyone, right? Nobody works everyone just collects their 3k

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For most of us reading this it is an obtainable retirement income. On the world stage if you can read this you are probably rich. A little bit of savings can get you 3k inflation adjusted once you reach "old age".

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Of course on the world stage this varies per country but I agree that a big of savings can get you there by retirement, especially if done early.

In China a common goal is to save 140k USD then invest it and retire by one’s mid 30s living a simple life.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago

That would be achievable in the US as well - 140k US saved and living a "simple life". Those some people who try it go back to work in a few years because it turns out they value a more complex life. YMMV.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

A little bit of savings? How much would you need to save per month?

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 days ago

Relax. If you max out your ROTH IRA every year until retirement that is possible (for the US).