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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 91 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Yet, if some citizen tells another citizen directly, "I'm going to kill you until you are dead," and that second citizen then goes to the police to report it, the police will respond, "we have no proof other than your hearsay, person one has to actually commit some act of violence before we can even issue a restraining order (worthless) let alone do any 'police work.'"

This is how it acts in citizen-to-citizen interaction in the real world. A business gets special treatment versus a citizen, yet again.

(Regardless of how crass or inappropriate her angry comment was. Remember: America lets Nazis exist because "free speech" - it's a huge hypocrisy.)

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

In the Article:

According to the affidavit, 42-year-old Briana Boston used the phrase during a call with BlueCross BlueShield about a denied claim.

Her problem is that she said it over the phone, every company records all phone calls, they always have an automatic voice saying "this call will be recorded for quality and training purposes" that makes anything you say after implied to have given consent for the recording, bypassing any two-party comsent laws.

I don't dispute the fact that corporations and rich people have preferrential treatment, but having evidence like a phone call recording is what's ultimately gonna get law enforcement to act.

If you have a video of someone saying "I'm gonna get my gun and shoot you until your're dead" to your face, that would probably have higher chances of getting law enforcement to act rather than just a "he said she said" heresay. No guarantees that they'll act (cops are mostly lazy and don't wanna do their jobs), but its much much better than just you claiming they threatened you without providing any evidence.

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 1 week ago (15 children)

that makes anything you say after implied to have given consent for the recording, bypassing any two-party comsent laws.

That... doesn't sound like two party consent to me. Are you saying that I can tell someone "I'm recording this call" and they don't have to actually consent, they just have to not mention it?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They consent by continuing the call. They can otherwise hang up

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And if you hang up you can't deal with the claim denial. So really, wouldn't that start to tread the line of coercion? If you don't consent to being recorded we'll continue to deny healthcare.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh honey... they were going continue denying the claim either way.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Oh absolutely.

It's just down right petty how they go out of their way to be evil. Piss people off until they lose control of their emotions and say bunch of shit and record it.

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