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I'm entirely unconvinced that anyone needs the thugs with badges. Multiple studies have shown that every single time that the NYPD pulls a "blue flu," the crime rate drops, significantly. As far as I can tell, the thugs with badges cause a significant amount of the crime in this country.
I agree, but if one day we abolished all cops, people in NYC especially would freak out. Hell some cops would probably do a bunch of crime to prove a point. Its not a demand that people like very much, . I think the police as a force that absolutely only exists to protect private property of the owning class, and I don't know if you wanna hear my "nuanced" opinions and I don't know if they're worth very much. But I think that the police as a reactive force needs to be handled tactically in order to protect people who are protesting and force through demands. By and large I agree with Farrell Dobbs analysis in teamster rebellion was, during a political rebellion such as the 1934 Minneapolis teamster strike, the state of a police department changes daily and must be evaluated daily based on primarily their numbers. It would be great for left wing mass movements to make demands on the ruling class if that number was zero, but that's unrealistic and most people know it.