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President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[–] kava@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

and not an actual criminal

yeah it can happen to anybody. sometimes you just forget to pay $1.4M you owe in taxes from the millions of dollars of dubious payments from overseas organizations (Burisma Holdings) owned by Russian oligarchs (Mykola Zlochevsky) that just happened to be investigated, tried and convicted of corruption

you know what message this sends to us plebs? they can do whatever the fuck they want. all we can do is sit and watch

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

sometimes you just forget to pay $1.4M you owe in taxes

That's not what he was convicted of. It was for buying a gun. That's a bullshit witch hunt. If it was for tax evasion I would be more upset.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Robert Hunter Biden (Hunter Biden) pleaded guilty in federal court in Los Angeles this afternoon to all counts in a nine-count indictment, including three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanor tax offenses. There was no plea agreement.

He pled guilty. Read more: https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/pr/robert-hunter-biden-convicted-three-felony-tax-offenses-and-six-misdemeanor-tax-offenses

He was playing money and tax evasion games. Getting millions of dollars of payments from a sketchy sources in Eastern Europe through his law firm and then what would be called embezzling from his company under different circumstances

This is not normal people behavior. This is most likely the tip of the iceberg. It's actually a nice little sneak peek into how much money flows between different oligarchs (including US ones) through these sketchy illicit channels

This guy absolutely is a criminal. There's no question about it. The trial probably is politically motivated too.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He pled guilty. Read more: https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/pr/robert-hunter-biden-convicted-three-felony-tax-offenses-and-six-misdemeanor-tax-offenses

You're right. Knowing this is about tax evasion, it does piss me off a little now

But if you are mad about this, how come you weren't mad when Treason Trump pardoned Rob Blogorovich which was a hugely bigger deal? He was a Democrat which means Trump did that for the sole purpose of normalizing corruption.

[–] kava@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

why the whataboutism? why the compulsive need to downplay the severity of this?

yes, trump is a criminal too. and he has pardoned criminals and will likely pardon more criminals.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

why the compulsive need to downplay the severity of this?

Why was the severity of Treason Trump's pardon of the much more serious crimes of Blogorovich downplayed?

Why do YOU care more about this pardon than you cared about the much worse pardon of Blogorovich?

Maybe in order to know the answer of your question you need to know the answer to my question. The reason why others are less outraged than you is they see that your outrage is selective.

YOUR lack of outrage about the the way more serious Bogorovich pardon is way worse than my lack of outrage about this.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

the topic of this thread is Biden pardoning his son, who was guilty of serious financial crimes.

you're the one being selective in your outrage, not me. i disapprove of all these guys.

the thing with Biden though, is that the DNC frames themselves as the good guys. You know, Trump is a corrupt criminal, bla bla bla.

So when Trump does, it isn't really a surprise. It's what you come to expect from someone like him. I'm not approving of Trump's pardons because I'm mentioning Biden's

The issue is that Biden promised various times that he would not pardon his son. But now that he has nothing left to lose (his career is over, and probably the country is doomed to fascism anyways) so fuck it. Integrity is for schmucks anyway, right? i guess the moral of the story is make sure you have a powerful dad

personally I'm not even outraged about it. I'm glad he did it so that it's more clear to everyday Americans that they're all a bunch of crooks

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

If the law truly means nothing, then may it be exposed as such and may all do as they will.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Mykola was convicted before Hunter got involved.

But since you believe this actually matters for some reason, what did Jared Kushner get 2 billion dollars from Saudi Arabia for after being appointed national security advisor to the president (against intelligence advisement) and given sci top secret clearance?