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Women and LGBTQ+ people take up guns after Trump’s win: ‘We need to protect ourselves’
(www.theguardian.com)
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It sounds good until the majority of gun owners in the country decide they like the tyranny.
Would you argue that the resistive elements in nazi Germany were wrong?
Not whatsoever, but we're in the US, where although some leftists are armed, the dominant gun culture isn't going to come out to defeat tyranny, they will come out to defend it. If Trump goes full dictator, these hypothetical armed antifascists resistance fighters will have to fight their way through legions of y'allqaeda before the US military (who I desperately hope will not recognize Trump's authority in such a circumstance) ever has to worry about them.
In that case, that sounds like the left needs to get weapons and become organized, like i recommend. And not turn over and assume that the majority will let them live free… as a treat.
You are basically arguing to give up and die because it’s too hard.
I'm not arguing at all. The left should arm themselves. But if things go like they are going, they'll never see the US military, it won't be about fighting a tyrannical government; they'll be fighting all their neighbors and relatives who are trying to defend that tyrannical government.
And frankly, echoing the other poster, ultimately that fight will likely be in the form of self-defense.
You don't need to rebut my comments, I'm not really arguing with you. Just expressing doubt that any tyrannical government will be directly harmed by citizens exercising the 2A. You can disagree without trying to convince me I'm wrong, that's just fine.
If you resort to only self defense, you will lose. You do not project power by watching your neighbor fail to defend themselves and then wait for your turn. The sneering others give saying i think i am some Rambo able to fight off tyranny with just my wits and a rifle like an action hero, is literally the opposite of what i am saying. That would be more true of someone thinking could fight off the systemic oppression of tyranny by looking out for only for themselves.
If you don’t want to discuss this because you are unable to argue the point that’s fine, but these discussions are literally about trying to convince others holding opposite views that their point of view is wrong. It’s literally the point.
I'm not sneering, and I'm not arguing. I'm expressing doubt that armed citizens will pose any threat to a hypothetical Trump dictatorship. That's 100% as far as my statement goes. I'm sharing my opinion, not disparaging yours.
The Black Panthers caused the CIA to label them terrorists even though they broke no laws, and got the NRA to push for gun restrictions. These armed citizens scared the police, and had the news media slandering them. And it’s because they posed a huge threat to the system. The last four wars were essentially lost against militants of objectively less organized, less armed, smaller, decentralized insurgents. Asymmetric warfare is not just a thing, but the Achilles heel to power. There is nothing unique about a trump dictatorship that would make these less true
I'm very aware of the history of the Mulford act, thanks!