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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There are many PD cables that are bad for doing data.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Correct. The other commenter is giving bad advice.

Both power delivery and bandwidth are backwards compatible, but they are independent specifications on USB-C cables. You can even get PD capable USB-C cables that don’t transmit data at all.

Also, that’s not true for Thunderbolt cables. Each of the 5 versions have specific data and power delivery minimum and maximum specifications.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You can even get PD capable USB-C cables that don’t transmit data at all.

I don't think this is right. The PD standard requires the negotiation of which side is the source and which is the sink, and the voltage/amperage, over those data links. So it has to at least support the bare minimum data transmission in order for PD to work.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Technically, yes, data must transmit to negotiate, but it doesn’t require high throughput. So you’ll get USB 2.0 transfer speeds (480 Mb/s) with most “charging only” USB-C cables. That’s only really useful for a keyboard or mouse these days.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

This limitation comes up sometimes when people try to build out a zero-trust cable where they can get a charge but not necessarily transfer data to or from an untrusted device on the other side.