More likely it is related to the years of harassment from the transphobe "running" retroarch and his horde of hateful shitheads who harass emulator developers until they work for him. Duckstation is far from the only emulator that has been targeted by this and "Swanstation" has always been incredibly sketchy for a "fork".

If you spend years torturing open source developers, this is what happens. Which... has no real impact on the "legitimate" users but will hopefully bring more eyes to why we actively should not support retroarch and their campaigns of hate. Especially when tools like ES-DE do an amazing job of just scanning for what emulators you have installed and "making it work" without demanding developers make tweaks to support their framework.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

This is unfortunate to hear. I had no idea the RetroArch team was like that. Looks like I need to move to stand-alone emulators when I get the chance. Convenience always comes with a price

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Its not even that much more convenient, truth be told. Yes, just double clicking to install a core is nice but you do that basically once per computer. Contrast that with downloading the emulator you like (most of which are installers on windows/mac and flatpak/appimages on linuxes) once per computer.

At which point.. just use ES-DE. It automagically detects the majority of standalone emulators and gives you a nice controller based GUI to pick what game you want to play and so forth.

The unified control layout is nice-ish but basically every modern gamepad is "close enough" to xinput that defaults work. And for the more obscure stuff... odds are you are looking more toward a mister anyway or it is that you actually have a god awful claw for the four n64 games worth playing.

Yes, there is a lot to be said about being able to just double click to install (and I think that most gui package managers provide flatpak integration these days? So that might actually be there?). But if you don't know how to install an application then you are going to have a bad time setting up retroarch/es-de in the first place and likely also difficulty totally ripping all your cartridges and yeah...

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have had every type of emulator setup imaginable. I personally find RetroArch the most convenient. Sure, if I can setup RetroArch or a RetroPie, I can easily setup stand-alone emulators with a front-end. Been there done that. I chose what I found to be convenient for my needs

If you are only trying to genuinely help, removing the negative statements and trying not to come off as condescending would do wonders

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah... I make it a point to not handle people with kid gloves when they are looking to make me convince them it is worth the mild inconvenience to not support a product with a long history of bigotry and harassment. Because, truth be told, it will never happen. Could give you a straight up handy and that would still not be neough.

So I'll continue to make my disdain for people who knowingly use a product run by people who profit off of bigotry and harassment quite clear. Same end result but with the added benefit of making them feel slightly bad and me have a giggle.

Also, if you thought the above comment about ES-DE vs retroarch was "condescending" then... wow you are sheltered.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I didn't ask you for anything. I stated I was going to move away from it. Get off your fucking high horse and you would see that

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