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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are no free money. These are loans. And making them attractive with cashbacks and rewards is done to trap unresponsible spenders. 95% of the time you don't need to borrow money from the bank, unless you are in emergency or you are to invest these to achieve some payback (e.g. a loan to open your business).

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These are loans. And making them attractive with cashbacks and rewards is done to trap unresponsible spenders

I am aware, which is why I specifically said

This is bad advice for anyone with good credit and spending habits.

For people who aren't irresponsible spenders, it's a bad financial decision not to take the short term bank loan. Sure, I don't need to spend the banks money because I have enough in my checking account to cover it. But by not doing so, I lose money on any transactions that don't charge me a fee to run my card.

If you're not responsible enough to use a credit card and not destroy your finances, absolutely do not use them. But for those of us who are, it's a dumb idea to eschew it just because you have the money on hand. Like I said, I haven't paid interest in a decade and have made thousands from my normal spending habits.

If I followed your advice, I would be objectively worse off, because I'd be losing money from my rewards for no benefit whatsoever. And I can guarantee I'd be materially worse off, since my credit card is the reason my credit is as good as it is, and that bullshit has a pervasive and perverse effect on your life. It's not only loans that are impacted, but insurance, housing and employment can be as well. So maybe I should have left good credit off, since responsible spending will build your credit up even if it is bad currently.

TL;DR - responsible credit card use is a good thing, and foregoing it just because you have money on hand is a bad financial decision. Pay that shit off immediately and there's no material downside and you still get all the benefits.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

Irresponsible vs responsible is how the credit card companies frame it, but I think most of the time it's about luck. The kind of luck where the primary income gets hit by a car or someone in the family gets cancer.