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[–] polle@feddit.de 107 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

[–] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I mean I’ve never used either of those apps and my computer doesn’t even have a camera.

Sounds like textbook bloatware to me… 🤷‍♀️

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

"if I don't use it, it's useless"

[–] beachcamp@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bloatware doesn’t necessarily mean it’s useless, but if even a reasonable percent of people don’t want or need it or shouldn’t be preinstalled. That’s bloatware.

[–] obscura_max@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

For bloatware to be a meaningful term, I think it needs to go beyond just some arbitrary percent of users don't need or use it. For an OS, having baseline apps which are useful across a wide variety of hardware setups and use cases is reasonable, even if they don't apply in your particular situation. Bloat would be superfluous apps that replicate baseline features or baseline apps that have grown in scope beyond what's strictly necessary.

Remote desktop and camera apps are pretty primary pieces of functionality, whether or not you use or need them. Windows is bloated garbage in general but those apps are not really a part of that imo... I don't know if there's really a precise definition of bloatware but I sort of think of it mostly as something that takes up your system resources rather than just hard drive space. Something that runs all or most of the time even though it doesn't actually provide much value

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