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Following the announcement by beehaw admins to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, there has been many posts and messages regarding that decisions and what other instances will do.

I personally believe Lemmy/kbin can only thrive if there is a free flow of content between different instances, with instance admins taking a back seat and focusing more on the infrastructure and making sure the technical bugs are smoothened out. Community mods can moderate their communities, and users can block the communities they don't find appealing (there's even a toggle in settings to hide every NSFW post from your feed altogether).

We don't want to create walled gardens, nor do we want to make Lemmy more confusing than it already is for new users. We will not be defederating from any instance if there is even one good community on it that our instance users might find useful. So far we have only blocked lemmygrad.ml, and right now we have no plans to block anyone else.

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[โ€“] TiredSpider@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I don't know why you're insisting people who don't like lemmygrad are anti-communists. Not all communists are pro-stalin tankies.

[โ€“] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

And not all liberals are pro war advocates... but some are.

Just because they like him, doesn't mean they admire everything he did. The idea behind the USSR, yes, not the war crimes he commited. And there are war crimes on both sides of the fence, not just on Stalin's side, yet they go unrecognized in history. If we villanize, let's villanize both sides, not just one.

[โ€“] ondoyant@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Sure! Fuck all war criminals, including the ones you seem to like defending. Listen, maybe people defederated lemmygrad because they "hate communists", or maybe they fully understand their position, and find it objectionable on its own merits. I would, unambiguously, never say I liked a war criminal. If I found out somebody was a war criminal, I would stop liking them. I don't want to be around people who like war criminals, either. To me, that either means they don't know about the war crimes, or they're kinda okay with the war crimes, and either option is bad.

[โ€“] solhesperia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Iโ€™m saying that I live in a country that used to be socialist and had a dictator like thatโ€ฆ trust me when I say this, we were better of with what we had previously.

That was your experience. Not everyone else's. My country had a dictatorship not too long ago, and believe me when I say this: We didn't flood the streets with our cries of peace for no reason.

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