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[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (23 children)

IMO, deniable ~~something~~ encryption is just not practical in real life. Authorites can make you life real hard, or just throw you straight into jail, just by suspecting you have encrypted materials.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

That is the point. They cannot find it. Yes they can try to force it out of you but then they would need to know it is there.

When you get searched for drugs and they do not find any, what does lea do?

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

The point is they don't have to proof if a piece of random data is indeed an encrypted blob.

Imagine you passing border security and got selected for search. They found a piece of data on your device with high entropy without known headers in the wrong place. You can claim you know nothing about it, yet they can speculate the heck out of you. In more civil nations, you might got on to a watch list. In a more authoritive nations, they can just detain you.

They don't have to prove you hiding something. The mere fact of you have that piece of high entroy data is a clue to them, and they have the power to make your life hard. Oh you said you deny them for a search? First congrats you still have a choice, and secondly that's also a clue to them.

For more info, read cryptsetup FAQ section 5.2 paragraph 3, 5.18, and 5.21. It is written by Milan Brož who is way more experienced than me on this matter.

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 2 points 3 weeks ago

Sure but knowing nothing much of encryption. If they put you away for non-compliance and suspicion its probably less than what they could put you away for if they actually found the file.

Like. I can cut the bags of coke and empty it into the ocean. They probably knew I had it, but not how much.

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