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[–] Antikythera@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (51 children)

You're not wrong, but just because the USA and UK got away with it doesn't mean we should continue to let others get away with it. We can't go back in time and fix it but we've got to start somewhere.

[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (21 children)

it's just a coincidence that this stuff only ever starts with our state enemies huh? only the bad countries get sanctioned for doing the same things we/our allies do. only Russia has to compete with neutral flags. only African leaders get prosecuted in the ICC.

it's all nonsense used to manufacture consent for war and military spending

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Russia competes with neutral flags because they can't stop doping. It has nothing to do with us vs them. They literally can't stop cheating.

[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

every single athlete at the olympics is doping

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've tasted all their piss and it all tastes the same.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Most honest hexbear enjoyer

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Common sense?

Have you played sports before? Even at the high school level teenagers are pumping their body full of steriods. I saw them do it myself, I've heard the stories from my friends who played rugby. Just look at top high school rugby or american football teams physiques, or at the cardio capacity of teenage track and field athletes. You really think that level is attainable without performance enhancing drugs, at such a widespread level? You really think that stops once these athletes become adults? How about the fact that all of Usain Bolt's competition got caught doping? You can't be this gullible. Seriously, read the article I've linked below.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/bernstein-usain-bolt-is-probably-doping-and-you-know-it/

Russia's sin here was official state involvement, not doping. As long as you pass the drug tests, nothing matters. Remember that Lance Armstrong never failed a drug test. Does that mean he's a clean athlete? Of course not, and neither was any of his competition. The same applies to the Olympics, the same applies to almost all competitive sports.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So no proof? That's what I figured.

I did play sports. None of us took anything.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you follow baseball or football?

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know we're talking about the Olympics?

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to assume you follow one or both, and that you're aware of the high prevalence of PEDs in both.

Now how are Olympic sports different than those leagues? Is there less of an incentive to cheat? Is the IOC more interested in preventing cheating? Do the athletes not care as much?

If anything, there is likely more doping in the Olympics because you have the resources of state actors backing athletes, see, e.g., Russia.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the jackass who claimed every Olympian is doping. You guys are pathetic when trying to justify hyperbole. Lol

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

So you understand it's hyperbole but still take it literally just to argue? Take that shit back to reddit

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling

There is nothing that makes cycling significantly different from any other sport in terms of the advantages of doping, the testing for it, or the means of evasion.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't realize that list contained every cyclist and Olympian.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why make such a stupid comment? "Oh you mean literally every athlete is doping, well show me the piss of literally every athlete ever, oh that's impossible? Fucking rekt"

smuglord

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be directing that comment to the dingus who literally claimed every athlete is doping in response to me. Try reading previous comments before acting like a dipshit while deep in the thread. Lol

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

the dingus who literally claimed every athlete

He didn't. That's not how language works and you know it -- you told me you knew it was hyperbole in another comment! Maybe try and have a conversation instead of this pedantic 🤓 "ummm ACKSHUALLY your statement is not LITERALLY 100% correct and backed up by six sources of my liking" garbage.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 7 points 1 year ago

This mentality is why we should crack down harder, not softer. Cheating is eroding the public's confidence in fair competition.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Then why is Russia so bad it then? They constantly get caught.

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