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This is an opportunity for any users, server admins, or interested third parties to ask anything they'd like to @nutomic@lemmy.ml and I about Lemmy. This includes its development and future, as well as wider issues relevant to the social media landscape today.

Note: This will be the thread tmrw, so you can use this thread to ask and vote on questions beforehand.

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[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 149 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do you see Lemmy working with duplicate communities on different instances? For example if Lemmy.World and Lemmy.ml have a PersonalFinance community, are people expected to cross-post? Or have you conceived of a system to allow people to find the right community efficiently?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 131 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Its a problem, and at the same time a feature. For example, you can have two communities named !news, that pertain to completely different topics based on their instance:

This also isn't unique to lemmy, since reddit too had tons of duplicate communities for the same topics.

Just like on reddit, the network effect will run its course here: unavoidably there will be a lot of cross-posting on duplicated communities, until people center around their favorites, based on quality of content.

There are a few tools out there too, like https://lemmyverse.net/communities , that can help people find communities to subscribe to.

Overall tho, I'm against the concept of "combining / merging communities" that are run on different sites by different people. These should be curated and controlled by the people who created them.

[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !news@startrek.website

[–] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Classic bot. Don't you know who you are talking to!

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this link supposed to work?

[–] Corvid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's a fictional instance used to make a point.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I appreciate both the information and your username 🐦‍⬛

[–] entropicshart@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Are there any plans for a “multi-community” (pka multi-reddit) to allow users to combine multiple communities into one? This could give users a neat way to browse/participate in similar communities across instances without having to navigate to each one manually.

I agree that community structure should not change to handle duplicates. If anything, having a feature similar to hashtags or topics that can aggregate a stream of posts from multiple communities would be nice.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by combining in this context? If they mutually agree to combine because they have aligned interests I don't see anything wrong with that. An external entity combining them I agree would lead to a bunch of problems.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it would be the same way it worked on Reddit when there were multiple communities with identical topics/similar names:

One gets a bit larger, therefore shows up in feeds more, appears higher in search results, etc.

Unless the other community has some kind of differentiation, it will wither and die.

And everything will be fine.

I keep seeing people being this up as if it's some huge problem. There's tons of /c/memes out there, but !memes@lemmy.ml is clearly the place to go. It's not confusing, IMO.

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it's a problem for the exact reason you think it's fine: I don't want centralization. If I did, I'd go to reddit. I do want each topic of discussion to be spread out amongst different instances and communities. But for that to be viable, you need a way to get all the content as easily as if it was all in one place.

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aside from any impracticality that could arise in implementation, I like the idea of federated communities between servers. I mean why not extend the possibilities of federation even further? Community mods or users could de/federate from communities on other servers with the same names or core themes should they so choose. In consideration of difficulties with moderating spam and other materials from other communities generated with the same name, I think it makes sense for that kind of community federation to be opt-in rather than opt-out.

If it goes the Reddit route, one of those communities will definitely border on dead and the risk for moderators/servers having too much power/influence within the larger communities continues.