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Tenth consecutive monthly heat record alarms and confounds climate scientists (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Alarms, sure. Confounds?

Confounds? defined - verb - cause surprise or confusion in (someone), especially by acting against their expectations. "the inflation figure confounded economic analysts"

IS THERE ANY FUCKING DOUBT AT THIS POINT?

[–] zik@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Among scientists there wasn't any significant doubt twenty years ago. It was just spin doctors trying to pretend otherwise.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

More nefarious than that IMHO. The science community works on consensus.

So when we say temperature will rise by 2.5 degrees and we are fucked That's the number they all agreed on.

99% of scientists may agree that a 1 degree rise means we are fucked. The 1% says 3 degrees. So if big business or shit government gets to that 1% they can control the narrative around what is socialized.

I'm a child of the 70's. Scientists have been ringing the warning bell for decades. Look at how ocean acidification is swept under the rug in all climate discussions. Scientists know it's a huge problem and has been since at least the 80's but do ALL scientists agree we are fucked?

If I was a scientist I'd be so damn jaded at the state of the world.

At least we can all be happy we are helping people get rich. Thats what is important after all.

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