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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 86 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (37 children)

I understand why Ayn Rand is in this comic, but she never financed a damn thing. She was working class herself and on welfare at the end of her life.

So, on top of everything else, she was a hypocrite, but she was not a capitalist, despite her obvious longing to be one.

[–] zokr@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

and on welfare at the end of her life.

You are just repeating what others have stated online without looking into this claim yourself.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ayn-rand-social-security/

She took Social Security and Medicare benefits. She also paid into those. She also paid taxes.


It is morally defensible for those who decry publicly-funded scholarships, Social Security benefits,

and unemployment insurance to turn around and accept them, Rand argued, because the government

had taken money from them by force (via taxes). There’s only one catch: the recipient must regard the

receipt of said benefits as restitution, not a social entitlement.


If she paid into Social Security and Medicare and paid taxes then what is the issue? The paragraph above states

that she did not believe her actions to be hypocrisy because she had paid taxes.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

I think everyone understands that people are dicked over and have to participate in the system as it is. However, if you’re going to be the poster child for why meat is murder or how god is fake or how public assistance is evil, it’s also not unfair for people to think you’re a hypocrite if they find you eating a turkey leg, preaching in church or taking public assistance.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

She was hypocritical because she thought Medicare and Social Security shouldn't exist. And was extremely vocal about it. Yet she took them anyhow.

Also, those programs aren't some kind of retirement savings plan. The money you pay into Social Security today gets paid out to those who are receiving it today. The first people to ever receive Social Security and Medicare never paid a dime into it because it didn't exist while they were in the workforce.

We need to stop thinking about how the taxes we pay in directly benefits us. Taxes pay to keep our government and society functioning on an even keel. It isn't a pay in and get your kicks out system. And when people like Ayn Rand go about criticizing it as if it's a travesty that they had to pay taxes so that other people can live comfortable lives they are showing what kind of self serving fanatics they are.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

There’s only one catch: the recipient must regard the receipt of said benefits as restitution, not a social entitlement.

Oh, so magic thought games change the nature of reality. Got it!

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