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A competition to produce the machinery of decarbonization would be downright amazing

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[–] SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I don't have access to read the full article, but how is this a bad thing?

It seems, from the first couple of paragraphs I read, that China is flooding the market with lower cost products that are better for the environment than status quo.

Why does it matter where the come from? Is this not a net positive? Is the USA so afraid of China that they would rather have everyone spending more money, and using traditional ICE vehicles?

Again, I don't have the full article but I don't see this as a worry.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Like most of my posts to paywalled content, it's a gift link, so you have full access to it. (When I don't have a gift link, I try to post a link to an archived copy as well as the main link)

And yes, a competition to produce the machinery of decarbonization is a good thing.

[–] SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I see it now; it was user error as I had not enabled JavaScript for that site.

Thanks for sharing. So the US is not competitive on price and scale when it comes to EVs and solar panels, and therefore the powers that be argue that we need to actively harm US consumers through protectionist measures in order to protect business. How is that even remotely responsible?

Also, the article is critical of Chinese factories for mass producing solar panels in large quantities all the time instead of laying off employees when demand is low. I mean, this helps deliver a solution to a problem that the US fails to acknowledge. If only the US had that kind of ambition....

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah a better answer is to support scaling up US industry to make its products cheaper

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