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[–] Tja@programming.dev 38 points 8 months ago (6 children)

My 8TB Seagate failed a week ago and I was looking into new drives. The cheapest HDD was around 25 EUR per TB (for the 18TB ones) and the cheapest SSD were under 50 EUR per TB. No idea where this "7 times cheaper" comes, maybe from 2015.

I ended up buying a 4TB Crucial MX500 with 4TB for 208 EUR (barely enough for my data, but with some cleanup it will hold a year for sure).

Not only it's faster, it's smaller (fits in the NUC), it's quieter and it consumes much less electricity. I don't think I will ever buy an HDD ever again. Maybe for surveillance recording?

[–] Zanz@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Hamr drives and for data center use. Consumer ssds are made very poorly and even premium drives like a Samsung pro won't hold up in a data center environment. Hard drives on the other hand are basically only data center versions now.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 10 points 8 months ago

No idea where this "7 times cheaper" comes

Probably from back when Toshiba was relevant

[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They ain't called Seabricks for nothing. SSD will let you sleep at night.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

There is a substantial difference indeed, now the setup is basically silent (I don't load the CPU enough for the fan to kick in).

[–] dishpanman@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

$200 for a refurbished 20TB drive on Newegg

The new ones were on sale for $270 so around $10-15 per TB. The best I can find is $40-50 per TB for SSD. Certainly not 7times more expensive but more like 3-5.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Yea, you can't compare consumer to business. Very different. Article is talking about datacenters, which don't typically rely on consumer grade products.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

Maybe regional differences. I've been looking for 3 days last week and have found anything under 20 EUR per TB, more like 25 for non-sketchy sites. For new drives, I'd never buy a refurbished again. SSDs are similarly priced, around 50 per TB for brand named ones.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not that many 18TB SSDs available though. Might (and probably will) change in the future, but today, if you want massive amounts of storage, HDDs are your only reasonable solution (ignoring magnetic tape) unless you really require the read & write speeds of an SSD. Imagine Backblaze trying to replace their 46000 16TB HDDs with a few hundred thousand smaller SSDs in their datacenter.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You compared cheapest by cheapest, however items cost is more efficient with larger sizes

If you compare the best GB per $ sizes of both media types it is likely going to much more apart.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I compared cheapest per TB. The HDDs were most efficient at 18TB, the SSDs at 2 or 4 TB.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 2 points 8 months ago

Oh I see. I need better reading comprehension.

When I do the same calculation I come up with HDD being 4.5x cheaper per TB.