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Dead wrong. The nazis will not be nice to you and respect your free speech because you respect theirs. Ever. They will lock you up regardless. This is not an even playing field.
If you say you are right to censor your worst enemys then the Nazis were logically also right to censor the opinions of the people THEY hated the most...
Supporting only certain peoples freedom of speech is the definition of censorship...
No it isn't. One is a violent group who want to kill and enslave. The other respects life. They are not the same. They do not have the same rights. You are dead wrong, period. No amount of rationalization will make you not dead wrong.
Killing and enslaving are both means to do something, not the actual reason itself. If any person with a different political view wanted to do the same, it would be just as bad. Everyones opinion should be allowed.
What would you consider to be a good reason for killing and enslaving that everyone needs to hear about regularly?
Killing and enslaving should not be allowed and should be avoided at all cost.
The point is, however, if (lets say) a communist killed and enslaved people, should that mean that communist views should be censored in the future? (No! IMO)
Killing and enslaving people are terrible and unacceptable ways of pushing one's own ideals. It does not make the actual opinion itself invalid though.
But communist views ARE censored, and it is specifically because it is claimed that they killed and enslaved. Meanwhile, Nazi views are celebrated as they announce to all that killing and enslavement is their goal.
And I dont think they should be censored (even though I disagree with their views). See what I mean?