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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

MacOS is still Unix under the hood, and has been since they adapted NeXTSTEP.

Maybe it's just because I'm fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS, where everything would grind to a halt if you clicked and held the mouse button.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Maybe it’s just because I’m fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

I absolutely agree

But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS

Or some weird old Unixes like AIX

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but at least they're unixes (unices?).

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think Unices would be correct, if it works like "appendix" etc...

[–] dukk@programming.dev 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or it could be “Unixes”, as in “prefixes”, or “crucifixes”.

English is a weird language.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah, apparently you need to know the origin of the word to know how to pluralize it.

One octopus, two octopuses. But you can also say "octopodes" because the elements used to create the word are originally Greek (okto for 8, pous for foot), and that's how Greek words get pluralized. But, although it was based on Greek elements it was never used in Ancient Greek. It was a modern Latin word, created in the 1700s as a scientific term using those Greek elements. As a Latin word, the "us" ending should be pluralized with "i", so "octopi" (which is one of the oldest known pluralizations of the word). But, it's an English word, and the proper way to pluralize an English word ending in "us" is to tack on "es".

So, you can go with "octopodes", "octopi" or "octopuses" and have an argument why any of them is correct.

For Unix, since it's a word created in English, it's probably "unixes". To claim it's "unices" you'd have to pretend that "unix" is a Latin word, which it isn't, and never was, but "ix" is a common declension pattern in Latin, and an uncommon ending in English, so it's fun to pretend it's a Latin word and doesn't get pluralized normally.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No, we're not talking about the users. (And the polite term is incel.)

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I figured it was more a voluntary thing for this group. A voncel if you will.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ahhh! The sweet taste of hardware and software flaws. (Every platform had them lol)

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This. I'm not sure why more people don't know this, but macOS is actually UNIX certified. Linux isn't.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, GNU stands for Gnu is Not Unix, so...

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, I know. That's why it's always kinda funny when you see Linux users shitting on MacOS for not being UNIX enough for their taste.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Linux isn't Unix, it's Unix-like

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And that's part of what I like about it. I know how to operate in the terminal and it's the same in all Unix OSes.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's one of the reasons I absolutely hate Windows. Nearly every OS uses some form of Unix. Android is Linux, iOS is based on XNU which is FreeBSD, macOS is also XNU, Linux is unix-like, all BSDs are Unix, even the OS used in the PS4 is FreeBSD and thus Unix. Windows is the only thing that's different.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Nah, Windows always does that on its own. No intervention required.