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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (19 children)

I can clearly see you left out the Indiana Jones.

Not a fan.

[–] eva_sieve@startrek.website 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Don't think they're including shuttlecraft. It's a bit hard to read but I can't see the Cerritos' Death Valley scanning through that area of the alphabet. I do note that Discovery is there in both original and -A format, which might be contentious since the ship is its own refit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Shuttlecraft are Starfleet ships! I will die on this hill!

[–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, many are warp capable, so that has to count for something, right?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago
[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is no honour to die on that ~~hill~~ small pile of dirt.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS!

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're vessels but I don't think they'd qualify as ships.

If I ask you to name every ship in the Navy I do not want RHIBs, dinghys, tenders, lifeboats or rafts included, but if I ask for every vessel, then if the Navy owns a kayak I want it listed.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat.

[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

So a shuttlecraft is a boat

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Planing vs displacement.

An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it.

A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90.

I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75.

An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep?

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en

Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ships launch other craft.

Otherwise it's a boat.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

The Discovery shouldn't be in Tendi's lost at all, considering its very existence was redacted.

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