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Whoopi Goldberg argued on “The View” that millennials feel that raising a family and buying a house are out of reach because they simply aren’t working hard enough.

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[–] oehm@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is that Aristotle or Socrates? I’m seeing both being attributed to the quote.

Edit: Also Plato… found this not sure if reputable but appears to be a quote from 1907 https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/?amp=1

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably invented, but it's worth pointing out that Socrates did not write. Most of his stuff came from Plato or others.

The Ancient Greeks also had a fundamentally different idea of what it meant to be a historian. It wasn't a fact and evidence-driven field, as it is thought of today. Herodotus, for example, regularly wrote stuff in the framing of "I wasn't there and it was many scores of years ago, but if I HAD been there this is what I would've seen happen", so to speak. Assuming he was a real person and not an invented personality.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember finding the source. It was a doctoral thesis on education in the ancient Greece, and that passage was like a summary of the sentiment in source texts, written by the author of the thesis.

edit; found the source text.