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The Biden administration requested Israel detail the thinking and process behind the recent strike on the Jabalia Refugee Camp in Northern Gaza, according to a U.S. official, who like others was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations.

"The U.S. asked for an explanation of the first [attack] on Jabalia," said the official, adding that the conversation was in the context of "asking Israel to do more to avoid civilian casualties."

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[–] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (15 children)

This entire argument was spawned because a commenter pointed out that no, Israel is not going to let a group that effortlessly blends in with the civilian population into their country. Thank you for at least addressing my points. A lot of this comes down to who do you trust? I really don’t trust either side personally, but from all the research I’ve done I’ve found mountains of evidences of intense hatred of Jews in this region long before WWII. I’ve found mountains of evidence pointing towards the land being bought legally prior to the 1948 declaration of war. If you are interested I can provide multiple sources for you about it. I don’t have an agenda and I’d like to see a ceasefire. I just want people to be informed.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (14 children)

I’ve found mountains of evidences of intense hatred of Jews in this region long before WWII.

You're talking about the the First Aliyah, and the anti-Jewish sentiments that arose in response were inherently tied to the Zionist nationalism among the new migrants who wanted to eject Arabs to form a Jewish ethnostate.

Zionism has always been a racist project. It smears all Jews with the crimes of the Zionist entity and directly and intentionally raises antisemitism around the world, forcing Jews to flee to Israel to become settlers. That's partly why the global North supports it so strongly - it gets the Jews out of their countries.

The other reason is it whitens the so-called Middle East by injecting them with American and European settlers, and gives the empire a strong position in the region.

The racial component is definitely complicated, but Zionism is unquestionably wrong and racist and must be opposed. What is needed is a single multi-ethnic democratic state, not an Arab state or a Jewish state.

I’ve found mountains of evidence pointing towards the land being bought legally prior to the 1948 declaration of war.

What? I'm pretty sure the British fucking stole it from the Turkish occupation, the Palestinians never had self determination.

[–] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I’m not talking about the Aliyah, I’m talking about the persecution of Jews in that area for 1000s of years. https://i.imgur.com/kl9n1jT.png

How can Zionism be a racist project when it is a mixed population with the majority being of middle eastern descent? https://i.imgur.com/9laOetm.png

[–] cozz33@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Forgot to address your final point my apologies. Here is one of many pictures that can be found of Jews purchasing the land https://i.imgur.com/5fYx5Ud.jpg

What you said about the British stealing it may be true but why place the blame on Jews? The man in that picture doesn’t look British. They bought the land with money they saved up for to flee extermination in Europe.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Buying stolen land is not legitimate lol

That's not about blame, that's just about nationhood. A nation built on stolen land is always a settler-colony (looking at you Amerikkka)

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