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[–] MenKlash@kbin.social 61 points 11 months ago (18 children)

I HATE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY I HATE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] sour@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

internet protocol:

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] random65837@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So by that logic you don't own your own data and therefore don't care about privacy.

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If ownership didn't exist, the data wouldn't be valuable enough to collect. You couldn't sell it, because nobody would buy it, because they couldn't use it to sell anything, since they don't own anything either.

But that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. The real point I meant is that fake concepts can still be useful. Like the concept of ownership.

[–] dick_stitches@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ownership for me but not for thee!

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you understand there is a difference between personal property and corporate property right? and then beyond that, there is a difference between owning a tangible product and information.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ownership is when one is allowed to keep all others from accessing or using a thing.

If that one is a person or corp., or the thing is physical or imaginary, it doesn't change the nature of ownership itself.

A person or a corp could make different choices with their ownership rights. And ownership of physical or imaginary things have different enforcement challenges. But none of that changes the fundamental concept of ownership.

But as I said elsewhere: "The real point I meant is that fake concepts can still be useful. Like the concept of ownership."

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ownership of tangibles and intangibles (specifically information) are entirely different, regardless how you wanna define ownership or whatever.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The enforcement of that ownership is entirely different, yes.
Basically the only way to maintain ownership of intangibles is to keep them a secret.

Also, don't all intangibles fit the definition of information? I don't recall running across any that wouldn't, but I'm curious. Can you give an example of what you mean?

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

i couldn't think of anything either I was just covering all my bases lol

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