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I average out the spring and fall changes and just set my clocks 39 minutes ahead year-round.

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[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 148 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (95 children)

Wait a minute. I'm taking this four steps further for the benefit of all of humanity. Here we go.

One, we need to convert over to 24-hour time. No more of this ridiculous AM/PM confusing crap that makes calculating times confusing. What time is it? It's 9. AM or PM? None of that. It's 9. What time is it 8 hours after 9? It's 9+8= 17. It's 17. Not 5p. What the hell. Why did anyone even ever agree to this AM/PM garbage?

Two, we need to end time zones. They are ridiculous. What's the point?? We could all work on GMT. Imagine, the entire world on one date. A whole worldwide party to celebrate the new year at the same time. International flight scheduling would be soooo intuitive. Your flight time is the arrival time minus the departure time without having to pull out a timezone map and consider daylights-savings to calculate it. What time is it on the International Space Station? The exact same time it is for the rest of humanity. Oh, but then half the world will be awake at night. Nope! They would just adjust their working/wake hours. Instead of the Eastern USA being open from 0900-1700, they would be open from 0400-1300. BTW, calculating that time difference was easy since it was on 24-hour time.

Three, we need to change over to the Julian calendar. What the hell are months even?? They don't serve any purpose other than to sell calendars, maintain the legacy of ancient emperors that dissolved democracies, and gaslight us by telling us that Sept, Oct, Nov, and Dec mean 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th. Get out of here with that crap. We're not buying it. Also, you know who else doesn't use 12-hour time and months?? The US military. They use GMT and Julian calendars for operational matters. Why? Because it makes sense for a global system to use the same thing everywhere!!

Fourth and lastly, we need to switch the year count to the Human Era. Stop with this whole year based on Jesus' supposed birth or death**. Do we even know if it's based on his birth or death? It doesn't matter. Oh, but historians use Before Common Era and Common Era. Okay...and who's life happens to line up perfectly with the split? That's like saying that the American Civil Rights movement ended racism in the country, yet there's still racial segregation and oppression. This is ridiculous. Civilization is letting the life of one person decide when it started?! What about everyone that lived before Jesus? Abroham? Cleopatra? Mark Antony (the full Roman, not the Romantic Puerto Rican)? the Buddha Llama? Sohcrateez? Confusion? Ea-nāṣir?! The correct year is when human civilization started. We are currently in the year 12,023 of the Human Era.

That's it! We've had enough of this oppression propagated by Big Time, including Rolex, Casio, Fossil, and grandfather. This movement starts right here👇, right now👇! One☝🏿humanity. One☝🏾period in the day inconsiderate of the meridian. One☝🏽variable for the date in a year. One☝🏼love. One☝🏻time.

Edit: Right now at the time of this edit, it is 5:00 pm on October 25, 2023 EST (daylights savings time), or better yet, 12023-298-2100 (year-date-time). 31 characters (excluding that it's daylights savings time!) vs. 14. Look at how simple 😮

We are all one system of humanity functioning on the same time, regardless of what anyone says. Right now is right now, no matter what we call it. It's time we all progress to a better future at/on the same time.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 38 points 11 months ago (26 children)

They would just adjust their working/wake hours. Instead of the Eastern USA being open from 0900-1700, they would be open from 0400-1300.

Isn't that just time zones again?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago (17 children)

I never understand the anti timezone argument... Right now I know that across the world they'll be working somewhere between 8h and 17h local like anywhere else in the world, so I do some quick math and I know when that is in relation to me. Without time zones I need to be actively informed at what time someone across the world is working in order to know when I can contact them...

[–] joranvar@feddit.nl 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That information won't be lost, though. It just would be expressed differently. They are no longer in a +8 hour time zone, which given your own location in a +1 hour zone would lead to a most likely open time of 8 - 8 + 1 = 1 til 17 - 8 + 1 = 10 your time, but in an area where opening hours are most likely between 0100 and 1000.

There is still a lookup, but no longer a lookup of time difference of the area, but a lookup of usual business hours in the area.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But right now business hours (which is what time zones are used for the most) are the same everywhere, that's much easier than figuring out if this part is India has its business hours from 3 to 11 or from 4 to 12.

[–] joranvar@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would say not much different from looking up whether they are in the +0530 or +0630 part of India. I guess the perception of convenience also depends on what you are used to seeing.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But no matter which one they're in, you know that by calling at 11 local (no matter if you're using the right time zone) you'll be calling during business hours, no need to check "What are normal business hours in India?"

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There's always one check in that situation. Whether it's business hours or timezone difference. And you still need to check business hours even in our current system, so might as well just simplify it (which of course isn't happening any time soon).

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better yet let business hours be based on daylight, no need to wonder if things are open or not based on the sun's position in the sky.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So... Current system then?

Noon is mid day or coffee to it no matter where you are, you know businesses will be open for sure a couple hours before and after noon local time.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's always kind of been an illusion. For lots of places, especially around the equator, it gets hot enough that expecting everyone will work the same 9-5 schedule, and businesses will all be open at the same time, is kind of stupid. Places like arizona, it would make sense if instead everyone used a siesta schedule, or if the schedule was shifted way forward in the day, from the later night to early morning, in the much cooler parts. And that's not even something that's really dependent on time zones, that's just dependent on variable climate. I see elimination of time zones, as more of an admittal that how we track that sort of thing is arbitrary anyways, so it's probably better in my mind to eliminate any pretense of it being an objective system.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I pointed out in another comment that even with a split schedule, the morning/day part matches pretty well with what we expect when thinking business hours (9 to 14 in Spain) and your suggestion to work late in the day to early morning is just stupid, that's how you get widespread health issues, depression and reduced productivity from people trying to with outside their body schedule. I know something about it, I worked evening/night shifts for 12 years.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I meant less evening/night shifts and more like. get up at 5:00 and stay up until 3:00 pm or so, with work obviously not being in the latter portion of the day, which is when it really starts to heat up ime. Seasonal depression and other related health issues we can cure with vitamin D, as they've been doing in the scandi countries since like the 70's, so I don't really understand how you'd be getting more health issues. If anything I would think that would be reduced as people working physical labor jobs would be less prone to heat stroke and exhaustion. You know, in places where you're working outdoors in 110 degree weather, hottest part of the day, after having already worked for like 5 hours. At the very least I think a siesta schedule would make more sense, which there's maybe a little bit more historical precedent for.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Look into cancer risks for people working nights, there's more to it than vitamin D and there's long term sleep issues that come with working nights for years, even after going back to a day schedule.

I thought what you meant was people switching to work from something like 2am to 10am, 5 or 6 am to 1 or 2pm is perfectly feasible and not that unusual (especially 6am to 2pm).

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