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TL:DR: they don‘t accept offsetting carbon emissions. By that logic, one watch has emitted between 7 and 12kg of CO2.
Note from my side: driving a combustion engine car emits between 100-200g per CO2 per km. So driving 70km in your car, will equal one Apple Watch.
So it is still quite impressive how low the value for the Apple Watch is, but it is not neutral.
I'm confused on what the EU is going for here. When I read "carbon neutral" I assume that means minimized emissions + carbon offsets.
I'm not sure if "zero carbon" is even a thing but it sounds like that is what EU wants "carbon neutral" to mean?
If I kill your dog but give you a new one I don't think I could be described as "dog neutral"
This isn’t a great metaphor. My dog is a singular individual and another dog isn’t my dog, so you can’t represent it with numbers. A carbon molecule is equivalent to another carbon molecule and can be abstracted.
That said, carbon credits sure seems like making up numbers to make something bad look better, just not in this way.
Except one CO2 molecule trapped in a stable environment, like underground coal, or natural oil reserve, is absolutely not equivalent to some other CO2 molecule in a far less stable environment, like artificially replanted forests.
I actually liked my dog metaphor specifically because of just like one dog isn't comparable to another, the carbon trade is turning stable CO2 into CO2 that might be released back into the atmosphere fairly quickly