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[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”

Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Time to get to work Satanic Temple.

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[–] huzzahunimpressively@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It's incredible that the U.S. is having this discussion again. What's the point—bringing creationism back to schools or stoning prostitutes?

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The point is replacing a somewhat transparent legal system with an arbitrary mess which makes everyone that isn't exactly on the politically desired line feel uneasy all the time due to uncertainty of state actions.

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[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

well i do like my prostitutes stoned…

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[–] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Religion is more powerful in countries with low education standards.

With the US government actively dismantling its education system, this is part of that bigger picture of wanting a dumber population so they're more easily controlled - through fear.

A shame to see America go so regressive so quickly.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair, the Republican/conservative project against the United States has been decades in the making.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

Well then Allah be praised!

/S

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I wonder if any of the dumbasses that are still supporting donvict yet understand what this would mean?

Log Cabin twats like Peter Thiel? These motherfuckers will come for YOU eventually, Einstein. Same for the likes of Tammy Bruce - an openly gay lesbian won't be in a position of leadership, what kind of gawdly message is that going to send? The Libertarian dumbfuck techbros still underwriting this shit, that are also hard atheist? You too, motherfuckers! Fast talking fools like Ben Shapiro and Stephen Miller? You guys are Jewish! Are you kidding?

The loudmouth uppity women like Beetlebert and Marjorie Trailer Queen and Kristi "dog murderer" Noem and Karoline Leavitt? You too - the Babble bangers won't be having YOU ruling over men, what are you even thinking? Best you can hope for is marrying some powerful man that keeps a roof over your head while he bangs some younger handmaidens to raise a crop of kids with his superior genes.

[–] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They'll be all about "forgetting" about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they'll be up in arms again.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By uniting church and state they can claim that “beezlebubs intermediate School of the Damned” goes against the official religious doctrine so it is banned but “holy Christ of the saints of Peter school for conservative belief” is allowed and gets taxpayer dollars

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

"Our Country." Is just his White America/Klansmen base. We need that separation more than ever.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia's entry on Separation of church and state:

Jefferson and the Bill of Rights

In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]

Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]

As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it's like to be "forced" to believe in something you don't.

Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don't go to the correct church at the correct time and day?

I don't give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that's their own business. I've had people try to shove their religion on me and it's not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.

This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s already more successful

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[–] freeman@feddit.org 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yesterday I watched the documentary "Hail Statan?", about The Satanic Temple. Not a bombastic documentary but shows a bit what they are, what modern satanism is and what they do in the US. They do mostly require an intact legal system to fight christian overreach so maybe its over for their legal battles

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I cannot respect any "Christian" that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.

[–] shani66@ani.social 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's literally the antichrist. I'm not being hyperbolic, he fulfills most of the prophecies. I'm no christian, but it's honestly creepy.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Lmao this dickhead who probably can't recite a single Bible verse.

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[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?

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[–] Daggity@lemm.ee 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well okay, trump is an adulterer and we have clear instructions about what we need to do about that.

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