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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 49 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Steam is terrified of the Microsoft store. It's part of why they're moving to linux

[–] lengau@midwest.social 37 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, but Valve is terrified of the Microsoft store for a subtly, but importantly, different reason than why Microsoft should be terrified of Steam OS.

Microsoft should be terrified that Steam OS will destroy their monopoly by making it so users no longer have to use their product.

Valve is terrified that Microsoft will destroy their monopoly by making it so users no longer can use their product.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (7 children)

So in the end, consumers win?

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 37 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Microsoft could also be terrified of how shitty Windows 11 is. I have to think back to Millennium Edition to compare to something this disastrous, but Satya doesn't care about Windows, Surface, or XBox. Microsoft's future is M365, Azure, and D365. Big fat high margin Enterprise Agreements since everyone is locked into their proprietary shitty office formats. And they get enterprise problems with audit, identify, access control like few other businesses.

What I don't know understand is why companies refuse to sell off businesses that they know will die off from their neglect. A shame, except for Windows.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 17 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There is nothing to be terrified of for MS, windows can implement mandatory rectal scans to log in and linux wouldn't break 20% market share.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Linux is already over 15% in India

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago

windows can implement mandatory rectal scans to log in

I for one would swap back to Windows from Liinux if this was implemented!

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Windows 98 was supported until almost a year after Windows XP's release, so nobody really had to use Millennium Edition. Windows 10's support is ending in October and no new version has been announced.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Microsoft always follows the pattern of good OS, bad OS, good OS, bad OS. We just have to wait for Windows 12 for a good one.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 21 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Year of linux desktop, amirite?

Jesus, news outlets love hyperbole, don't they. We are not even at 5% market share.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

He specifically didn't say that. Instead of criticizing that they aren't nuanced enough you should read the nuance they actually wrote:

Let me be clear: The odds of a massive, immediate shift away from Windows PCs aren’t great. This isn’t a “year of the Linux desktop” rallying cry. But if there is a Linux desktop that exists today, it’s the Steam Deck. And that makes SteamOS a bellwether for greater proliferation of non-Windows devices (if not necessarily “Linux” specifically) in a huge range of form factors.

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[–] lengau@midwest.social 5 points 17 hours ago

I don't know how long it'll take desktop Linux to reach 10% market share. Could be a couple of years, could be decades, could be never. But once it reaches 10%, I give it 5 years before it's over 80%.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I just installed Linux and holy shit it is so much easier and more straight forward than a windows install. Really wish I would have done it sooner.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I had issues with drivers, like I would have to find them somewhere on the internet, trust a random stranger to download and install them. And even then some things required me to launch drivers manually every single time I wanted to use my hardware.

I had issues with games, constant crashes or some games flat out not working. Some even crashing the entire system occationally.

I had issues where my pc would randomly turn on. Going to sleep was funky and would break the system requiring restart. I had to find drivers for my audio systems to get them running.

I had to run around confusing settings and tweak them through different control panels made by random people that largely overlapped to fix basic issues.

Thankfully those issues were solved the moment I installed linux.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Haha you had me, ngl

That said I've never had issues with drivers on Windows, like ever.

The last time I tried Linux was probably a good 5 years ago (Mint) and it was good, but I kept having to do what you described, adding repos (had no idea what they were or how they worked) and running command line updates, and it all looked like random code executing on my system. I could definitely see why the average person would be intimidated.

Eventually I gave up when I couldn't get the most simple thing I did in windows working on Linux, updating my keepass automatically via Gmail.

I'll have to give Mint another shot, I'm sure it's come along even more.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 hours ago

I haven't used Windows in a bit, but I had to help two friends with display driver issues on windows recently. When they break they have to be uninstalled using a third party tool before you can perform a fresh install of them.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's funny because while some of it has to do with work to make Linux desktops better, a non-trivial amount of it is how worse Microsoft has made it to deal with Windows.

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[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When most/all multiplayer games start working on Linux that's when Linux can really start taking off.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 15 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

They do. We're already there.

The only titles that don't work are the ones with kernel level anti-cheat, and that needs to die anyway.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

Are you serious? Most games can be played on Linux? I don't care about the kernel anti cheat games, since that shit is not going on my pc anyway

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago

I played enshrouded and path of exile and Diablo and Elden ring coop and bg3 coop all with zero issues except on like the first few days of release if there are any.

The worst thing right now about Linux multiplayer gaming with anticheat is the release day experience. Or if it's a AAA title with heavy graphics expectations, odds are they use some weird directx fuckery that's not available in vulkan immediately and needs patching.

All of that gets fixed when Steam deck compatibility at launch day becomes more of a thing, so it's just a matter of time tbh. I've been using Linux dual-boot since Hardy Heron and as my sole OS since 2018, 2025 may be honestly the year of the Linux desktop no joke.

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I haven't had a problem running anything yet, currently playing fallout 4 with f4se and a few mods using a ds4 controller over bluetooth.

That's probably one of the buggiest games out there so that's saying something. It's the first game I've had to tinker with the launch settings though

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Seems more like about 20% of games. It’s definitely improving but still a long way to go.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

20% of games are broken or working? That's way off either way.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

I have a Windows PC to play Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, and more recently Marvel Rivals. We’re still not quite there yet, although it was pretty cool that Baulders Gate worked on Linux.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (18 children)

As a long time Linux enjoyer, this is honestly the easiest way to get it into the mainstream. People have already seen the success of the steam deck which only reinforces that Linux can be used for gaming better than ever before. As long as people stop using Windows I'm here for it.

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[–] unautrenom@jlai.lu 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

(2025 is “The year of the Windows 11 PC refresh,” allegedly)

Wait. Since when has Microsoft's Windows team been drinking from the same copium jars as us Linux users have for years?

That's hilarious.

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