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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think there is quite some misunderstanding what movies and science ficion are about. It's not reality. The premise is: it's speculative fiction... The whole concept of "future" isn't reality (yet).

Not anthropomorphizing AI is solid advice.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never understood why people post their own medium blog posts like it's a valid article and not the exact same as a myspace post

[–] Grail@aussie.zone -2 points 5 days ago

Me neither. I always post My own medium blog like it's a MySpace post. You don't see Me claiming it's anything it isn't.

[–] april@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People who think AGI is near have watched too many movies

ChatGPT has simply memorized the internet, I have never seen it display anything resembling intelligence.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

"Memorized" is a bit generous. It's pretty hazy on a lot of the details.

[–] Grail@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What did you think of paragraph 9 in My article?

[–] april@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You claim to not be talking about AGI and then you immediately go on talking about Data from Star Trek as your example of a nonhuman intelligence. Clearly Data is AGI.

Nothing we have is anywhere near Data. It doesn't even have the potential to resemble the smallest aspects of Data.

Personally I have never seen an AI that even gets close to intelligence. A baby cat is infinitely more intelligent. I have no problem with accepting nonhuman intelligence that's not the issue here.

You need reasoning on novel problems to be intelligent not just rewording text from the internet.

[–] Grail@aussie.zone 0 points 3 days ago

That's not what paragraph 9 is about.

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Title +

But all of that takes a long time to explain. In the heat of an argument on the internet, it’s much faster to just say that if someone thinks AI means Cortana from Halo, they play too many video games.

But in the meantime :

Allow Me to talk about one more science fiction story. The Measure Of A Man, from Star Trek. The episode depicts a trial held to determine whether Commander Data is a person, or property. The case made by Commander Riker in the episode is that Data can’t be a person, because he’s so different from us humans. His body parts can be detached. He can be switched off. He doesn’t have emotions. If he’s different to us, then he can’t be intelligent. He’s just an object.

Tech investors are definitely not doing that. They don’t want to see a neat toy guess what they’re thinking. They want artificial human beings that work for free. And that dream is nowhere near complete. I think it’s impossible; I think a true artificial human would have the same drives that make humans want pay as a necessary part of its intelligence. Or maybe it would be a communist, say money is pointless, and then murder its capitalist creator. That’s what happened in a lot of science fiction stories.

Judging the "idea of communism" on science fiction, based on totalitarism + imperialism systems, depicted on sci-fi...

And the only part where they do talk about humans being the product for the AI models ... :

With simple logic trees, Akinator can easily determine the question to ask you which will help the most with guessing your character. He’s applying very simple judgement, but doing so with an efficiency and scale beyond human minds. As a kid playing with Akinator, it was obvious he had a form of intelligence. He’s synthesising information and making accurate judgements. It’s just that he can only make those brilliant judgements about useless trivia.

Not a good article, self-oriented.
Click bait, not really talking about AI and their deniers.
Just what they think to know...

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When your sources include an episode of Star Trek TNG, you should maybe stop and reconsider posting your dumb article.

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

StarTrek, the communist TV show with a large audience in the same time 😂

After the profile being checked,
My mind : OP is at worst a troll, just here to make reals fights arguments unintteligible for non-LGBTQIA+, or they are at best, just a mix of "trans", fascists, MAGA, with a big lack of culture ofc.
I really tend for the first Option, unfortunatelly,

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Ugh. Then it’s just a “downvote and move on” profile.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Alternately, AI supporters haven't watched enough movies? 🤔

https://youtu.be/mRNX6XJOeGU

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Don't talk up AI. Don't talk down AI.