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[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There are a lot of things to hate about Apple, but this I can get behind. Get people using 3rd party messaging apps too! Preferably ones with e2e encryption.

[–] gchap@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Plenty of people in the UK/Europe use third party apps already, iMessage is certainly less of a big deal than it is in the US.

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[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

i can recommend signal

[–] bestonecrazy@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago

Element is on the App Store

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Those proposals will never be made law and acted upon.

It's infeasible nonsense to pander to the Daily Mail reading curtain-twitchers. They've had 13 years to try and do this. If they wanted to (and indeed if it was in any way possible), they'd have done it already.

It'll be just "Vote for us and we'll make your children safe from nonces and muzzies!" until the end of time.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, I never thought the GOP would actually overturn abortion rights because it's such an effective red herring to get their base to keep voting against their best interests, but here we are.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be fair, I don't think the GOP ever planned on it happening either. Their strategies aren't forward thinking whatsoever and are actively fucking over future members of the GOP.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is the correct response. Either everyone has protection or no one has. Not that I'd trust apple anyway but by pulling the service your average person is likely to make some noise because they can feel the effect.

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

I'm not even an Apple user but somehow I still feel like Apple is one of the very last companies where privacy and the security of your data is more worth than a dime.

[–] zettajon@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

Nope, Apple sells your data just as much as Google does: https://www.insiderintelligence.com/content/apple-ad-revenues-skyrocket-amid-its-privacy-changes https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/22/23513061/apple-iphone-app-store-ads-privacy-antitrust#luMMel

While people noticed their new policies against 3rd party apps, that masked the fact that those policies carved out an exception for first party apps, meaning they collect (anonymous) data on you through Health, Journal, Music, etc. just like every other company. "Trusting them more" is simply a result of you and everyone else getting hit with their privacy ads recently.

Edit: "just like every other company" meant Google and Microsoft, i.e. the other big equivalent tech companies, my fault for not being specific.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I’m all for calling out companies for abusing your privacy, your own links show that they don’t collect as much data as google. They could (and should) be better though.

[–] khajimak@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nope apple is literally worse than hitler, spez, and elon musk confirmed. Tim apple fucked my wife in front of me.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

You lucky sonofabitch. You got to witness the ol Apple Pie with your own two eyes.

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Anonymous data is actually pretty different to the data everyone else collects, which literally has your name and picture

Apple’s data is useful for trends but it can’t be used to study who I am.

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[–] C4ptFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

“Just as much as Google.” LMAO. We have an expert here.

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[–] ryannathans@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

God damn bullshit always "for children and terrorists"

[–] hiire@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I hate how people turn a blind eye to these things nowadays. They're willing to give away their personal lives at the expense of the shittiest excuses out there. Privacy should be a necessity, ffs.

[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Why don't they just actually give their actual reason: to spy on UK citizens.

To use children and criminals as a scapegoat for this attrocity is disgusting.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"protect the public from criminals, child sex abusers and terrorists"

Aren't two of those just subsets of the first one?

What a curious pair of emotionally manipulative examples to choose, when it adds absolutely no extra meaning to the Home Office's statement.

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[–] Dionysus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (8 children)

There’s legitimate criticism to be made for Apple, but this is something I really appreciate about them.

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[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (30 children)
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[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 7 points 2 years ago

NSA Access Only!

[–] breakfastmtn@geddit.social 5 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Don't you know anything, Brits? Apple only strips security features for the Chinese government, you fools!

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[–] FlyLikeAMouse@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

The incumbent government is circling the drain and are, it seems, determined to leave a trail of destruction and burned bridges for their successors to repair.

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