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Google is way to compliant to DMCA request resulting in bad result. Bing doesnt seems to care and will happily link to live and replay of sport event (the main reason I use it personnaly) even as a first result.

PS : If you're french dont forget to change your DNS or any quality site will not load

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[–] MarioBarisa@vlemmy.net 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or you can use duckduckgo that uses bings search index while protecting your privacy

[–] ThesePaycheckAvenging@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been using DDG exclusively for years now and every now and then I feel it doesn't give me what I seek and I try Google and it doesn't find shit either.

People always say that Google results are still superior but I believe that's only the case as long as you're in the bubble they create based on your profile and you're looking for your interests and like-minded opinions.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google search was amazing for a while in the mid 2010s but they're losing the SEO arms race now

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aren't all search engines kinda shit compared to 10 years ago?

I think it's because malicious actors have gotten more sophisticated at influencing the search results and also Google stopped giving a shit. If there's something out there that can give me 2010 Google level results, hook me up.

But I have been feeling like search engines are going extinct for a while. When the majority of content on the internet was real, search engines were useful. Now that the majority of content is fake and/or monetized, it becomes increasingly difficult for search engines to return helpful results. No matter how well optimized the algorithm, it's like searching for a needle in a haystack.

[–] aeki@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

I think people say Google results are superior due to inertia. Google was really good at some point, many years ago. These days it's laughably bad.

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[–] pure_honey@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

And it’s far less cluttered. I use it because it gives me the same or better results than Google and it’s UI is waaay cleaner and reflects my dark style preference without having to reload it even once.

[–] mrpants@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

DuckDuckGo has been harming people's privacy for years now. Ironically in part because it allows Microsoft's ad network through due to their partnership. Luckily there are many other alternatives out there.

[–] meteokr@community.adiquaints.moe 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luckily there are many other alternatives out there.

Sharing is caring friend; offer some names so that we may benefit from your research.

[–] mrpants@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Apologies, here's some. Also plenty listed on https://alternativeto.net/software/google-search/

Startpage

SearX

Ecosia

[–] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Qwant sends data to Bing ads, and didn't tell its users about it for five years.

Yandex is a Russian company with strong government links that I wouldn't trust in any way.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yandex is the best when it comes to pirate searches, hands down

[–] SinJab0n@mujico.org 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All pray for the soul of RARGB, all praise the all mighty RUTOR.

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[–] lazyvar@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Pro tip: if you do insist on using Google scroll to the bottom until you see a notice like the one below.

You can then click on the complaint to see the URLs that were removed.

They’ve wisened up a bit and now require a (throwaway) email to access the links, but chances are that if you’re looking for something more obscure, the link you seek is still there.

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[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google is just better at censorship.

I use searx because it aggregates over multiple search engines. You can find searx nodes here: https://searx.space/

[–] syboxez@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You should try out LibreX. Built in torrent search engine. Works similarly to SearX.

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[–] EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not an unpopular opinion. It's a known fact for years.

[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Neutral opinion: any opinion can be popular or unpopular if posed to the right (or wrong) audience

[–] zakiod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Clearly, I shouln't have posted this as an "Unpopular opinion" but rather as a PSA or general advice, my bad. Just something i thought as something people should know. Also I'm sure there is better search engine out there so please share away !

[–] croobat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Google nowadays works if you wanna search something from the Wikipedia or like the same 20 websites. For anything else, good luck going through all the SEO autogenerated garbage.

[–] Gatsby@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion: chocolate tastes good

Woah, friend. This is unpopular opinion, not crazy opinion. You need to calibrate or leave. Friend.

[–] Mnky313@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

SearX go brrr There's even a tab for ′files′ which is all just torrents

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[–] Gamey@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can highly recommend Brave search, they have their own index and don't "comply" with the DMCA because it's not actually required for a search engine but sadly also not forbidden. I love it every time piratebay.org shows up when it obviously should and not some scummy fake sites!

[–] true_blue@lemmy.comfysnug.space 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I second the recommendation. I know a lot of people don't like the browser (although I find that a lot of that dislike comes somewhat misleading rumors or stories) but the search engine really doesn't have anything to do with the browser except that it's by the same company. I often switch between it and Duck Duck Go, and I don't use Brave browser.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Just my 2c on the browser, I tend to prefer setups that I do or make as part of a guide so that I feel more in control and more aware of what's running on my PC, so I much prefer taking the time to install LibreWolf and then add a dozen extensions to it.

However, Brave is still a browser I recommend to the casual who wants more privacy for how convenient it is. And I do daily drive it on iOS too for the built in adblocking, which (to my knowledge) can't be done on the iOS build of Firefox.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would you use Bing over DDG? Honest question

[–] skomposzczet@vlemmy.net 10 points 1 year ago

DDG also partly buys results from Bing, so more good results with none privacy abuse. I only switch back to google when searching for images, DDG sucks at finding images.

[–] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bing Chat is great, and at work we use M365, so I can easily search for work content through Bing too.

Bing Rewards are also a nice bonus.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Why talk to Bing Chat when Greg from down the hall could use a chat instead. he is lonely

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[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

So duckduckgo which is primarily bing would be best for piracy privacy?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 year ago

Its better at serving unbias results as well.

[–] c0mplexx@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

where (at least piracy forums) is this an unpopular opinion?

[–] Batpool23@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Been using the Duckduckgo app for awhile now. Works fantastic, F google

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[–] unwinagainstable@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google is getting passed by in many ways. Chrome feels like a second rate browser now.

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[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't they still provide that link at the bottom of the first page with a list of all the DMCA'd content in one convenient link (so you can be sure to avoid it)?

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[–] KimiNoJohn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Ecosia feels the best to me

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does Bing compare to duckduckgo?

[–] NotBadAndYou@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Duckduckgo.com uses Bing as its back-end. Honestly I prefer both to Google anymore.

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[–] Flicsmo@rammy.site 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've found yandex to work even better. But yeah bing is way better than Google.

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[–] Barky@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So far the only comments have been 'everyone knows this already', but I did not, so thank you for posting it

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[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Apparently porn as well.

[–] Ivan171@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's better for porn as well... A friend told me

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[–] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Idk man. Bing Dorking isn't as good as Google's. They have similar operators but Google usually has better results.

[–] countdankula420@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Searx is the best because its uses multiple search engines at the same time

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