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So I need some realtalk by Lemmie's resident stoners and possibly medical professionals on the benefits and risks/harms of vaping cannabis refill things on the respiratory system (using a rechargeable vape pen/battery thingy at the lowest heat setting).

Give it to me straight docs, whats up and how long do I have to live if I use it infrequently but potentially daily in small amounts?

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[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Inhalants in general are not good for you. Vaping introduces water, smoking introduces ash/smoke. There are no benefits to vaping or smoking. Unless you are being prescribed it by a doctor. I mean drugs are not good for you. But if you are going to, your body can usually deal with it well with moderation. Edibles are better than inhalants.

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing you inhale is good for you, but vaping is significantly better than smoking. It's not even a comparison.

If you are going to inhale something, make it a vape

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen any studies on that for cannabis. For tobacco I agree that is absolutely true.

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any inhaled particulate matter from combustion is bad for you. Tobacco products add extra chemicals that make them worse, but just smoke from a regular fire can cause health problems. Cannabis is no exception, despite how much we want the opposite to be true.

I'll edit this post to add a study when I get to my desk

Edit: Here's a pdf

[–] henrikx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These answers are so unhelpful Imo. It just states the obvious and doesn't answer OPs question. Everyone knows drugs or inhaling stuff is not the healthy optimum. OP is just looking for the least harmful way.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Least harmful way for cannabis is probably edibles

Which is what I said, lol :) agreed

I did. Edibles in moderation. They wanted it straight, and that's what I said.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really wish there was like an asthma puffer delivery system where it is aerosolized rather than heated and burned. I dunno if thats possible but it would be amazing to simply have a puffer, like how there's inhaled versions of narcotic painkillers like fentanyl with legitimate medical indications and usage.

[–] mactheknife@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you’re describing does exist. Google “THC inhaler” and you’ll see a few examples of it.

I don’t use an inhaler like that, but I do use a dry herb vaporiser. You put your ground bud into it (like packing a pipe or bong), and it heats the flower to somewhere around 170-200 degrees Celsius. Since the temp is so low, the flower doesn’t burn it at all, so no smoke or ash is produced, only vapor. It’s so much better for you than combustion, relatively speaking, that my country’s rules for medical cannabis prescriptions say that prescribed flower should never be smoked, only vaporised.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that or how is that distinct conceptually from vaping?

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Tbh its not if you only cape pure stuff, but the extraction process, and even more so the additives companies legally can add after definitely are.

A lot takes advice from nic gaping, which is pretty much just making a chemical soup solely to making smoking quicker and simpler.

Stick to good extraction methods, and a concentrate vape instead of mixed then you should be good (CO2 instead of butane, diamonds, distillates are all good)

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know what you are talking about. I don't know of any legitimate inhaled drugs that aren't for treating the lungs.

Are you maybe thinking of narcan? It can treat an overdose of fentanyl.

[–] Backsideslappy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Methoxyflurane is still widely and legally admistered as a vaporised drug. All hail the green whistle.

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 2 points 1 year ago

Don't forget amyl nitrate

It is making a comeback, but it was removed in the 90s by many countries. So I have never heard of it in my country. :)

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, I believe there's literally an aerosolized fentanyl I believe as a marketed drug. I may also be thinking of when Russia dealt with a hostage situation with aerosolized fentanyl or a more potent relative. But I was certain theres a marketed version for sick folks

[–] jdhdbdk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every anaesthsiologist will tell you that there a few inhaled drugs, such as sevoflurane, isoflurane and desflurane. We use them every day. They are vaporized and inhaled.

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are not treating anything, are not meant for habitual use, and aren't available for individuals.

[–] jdhdbdk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sevoflurane can be used as add-on treatment for Asthma in Life-threatening cases. But I know that‘s beside the point and I agree that there is no vaporized treatment for individuals.